Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. |
Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, I want to be completely transparent with thee, Praying in this way, I can be at rest, |
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I think you’re better than that, Bro.
I believe you have known Roman Catholics et al who were/ maybe are
over the line into worship of Mary.
I believe you have written things to me to that effect, before.
I’m not saying everyone is over that line. Some are.
They are the ones I’m addressing.
“Luke 1:39 / 2 Sam. 6:2 - Luke's conspicuous comparison's between Mary and the Ark described by Samuel underscores the reality of Mary as the undefiled and immaculate Ark of the New Covenant. In these verses, Mary (the Ark) arose and went / David arose and went to the Ark. There is a clear parallel between the Ark of the Old and the Ark of the New Covenant.”
Luke 1:39 says, “And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda;”
2 Sam. 6:2 says, “And David arose, and went with all the people that [were] with him from Baale of Judah, to bring up from thence the ark of God, whose name is called by the name of the LORD of hosts that dwelleth [between] the cherubims.”
“Luke's conspicuous comparison's...” Luke says nothing about any ark nor does he make any comparisons of anything to another, nor does he speak of Mary as an ark in this verse. No need to treat what else is offered up as...I don't know what to call it.
lIKELY SO.
Main Entry: wor·ship
1 chiefly British : a person of importance —used as a title for various officials (as magistrates and some mayors)
2 : reverence offered a divine being or supernatural power; also : an act of expressing such reverence
3 : a form of religious practice with its creed and ritual
4 : extravagant respect or admiration for or devotion to an object of esteem *worship of the dollar*
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Catholics pray to Mary, asking her to grant answers to their requests. They, by their own admission, love and revere her, all activities which should be solely directed towards God.
They defend her with as much fervor, if not more, than they defend Christ. More from what I’ve seen, because when other religions teach error about who Jesus is, they don’t get as bent out of shape as they do when someone tries to point out accurate Biblical teaching about Mary.
Roman Catholics can deny it all they want, but in essence, the worship Mary.
If they’re going to get anywhere convincing the world that they don’t, then they’re going to have to do away with the prayers to Mary, the statues of her, and the irrational, unfounded, unScriptural teachings about her.
When they have to make things up about her to defend, or rather excuse, their attitude towards her, they are, in essence, worshiping her.
Main Entry: wor·ship
1 : to honor or reverence as a divine being or supernatural power
2 : to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion *a celebrity worshipped by her fans*
INDEED.
HOWEVER, we know that the Vatican edifice prefers to operate with it’s own RUBBER DICTIONARY . . . at least according to the rabid clique types within it.
That's simply not true from my perspective, heart, mind, intentions, goals.
This is why the Catholic Church doesn’t want Catholics to read the Word for themselves, because then they’d see the unadulterated hogwash their teachings about Mary are.
I looked up those references as well and the only connection between the two situations that I could find was the time period of three months.
Mary left after three months simply because, if you do the math, Elizabeth was due to deliver at any time.
That does NOT make Mary a type of the ark.
And even IF it did, it does not support any contention that she was conceived without sin.
It isn’t about thought, because if the Catholics actually thought through what they are taught instead of blindly swallowing what their church tells them to believe hook, line, and sinker, they would see the error in the RCC teachings.
If only Catholics would display the same level of devotion to Christ as they display to Mary....
Seriously? I can’t get past Mary dispensing all grace.
Reminds me of the silly childhood song: Oh ya can’t get to heaven......
Size 13 doctrine, size 8 Scriptures. No amount of forcing makes it fit.
Far tooooo true, imho.
THX.
INDEED.
THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
Yeah. That one stuck in my craw heavily, too.
INDEED.
Though I’d put it this way.
Size 0.0000006 doctrine
Size 12 Scriptural shoes.
For example: I take as a premise the false one that my across the street neighbor has three heads. From this I argue that if he has only two hats, his head will get wet on a rainy day.
The logic is good, but the premise and the conclusion are bad.
Yet they refuse to READ for themselves because they’ve been indoctrinated that they aren’t CAPABLE.
Is this RC doctrine or does it come under “your own personal interpretation”? hmmmmm
If I say "Are you thinking ...?" that is not making it personal. If I say "You think ..." that is making it personal.
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