Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]

Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

[Quix]

GIVE IT ALL TO . . . ? . . . .

--A Research Thread--

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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, may your name be kept holy. 10 May your Kingdom come soon. May your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us today the food we need,[a] 12 and forgive us our sins, as we have forgiven those who sin against us. 13 And don’t let us yield to temptation,[b] but rescue us from the evil one.[c] --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed (kept holy) be Your name. 10Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 11Give us this day our daily bread. 12And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven ([e]left, remitted, and let go of the debts, and have [f]given up resentment against) our debtors. 13And lead (bring) us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen. 14For if you forgive people their trespasses [their [g]reckless and willful sins, [h]leaving them, letting them go, and [i]giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: Our Father in heaven, Reveal who you are. Set the world right; Do what's best— as above, so below. Keep us alive with three square meals. Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others. Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil. You're in charge! You can do anything you want! You're ablaze in beauty! Yes. Yes. Yes. 14-15"In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can't get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God's part. 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. --THE MESSAGE

Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, Mother of Perpetual Help, I turn with confidence to thy maternal Heart, and I renew my total and irrevocable consecration to thee. I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, and all that I have is thine. I give thee my past with its burdens. I give thee this present moment with its anxieties and fears. I give thee my future and all that it holds. There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, no place so secret, or so darkened by sin that thy presence and thy influence are not wholly and ardently desired there. I want to be completely transparent with thee, utterly simple, guileless, and childlike. Thou knowest, O Mother, all my preoccupations, all my intentions, and all those recommended to my prayer. Take them, I beseech thee, to thy Immaculate Heart and, as my Advocate, my all-powerful intercessor, and my Mediatrix, present them to thy Son. Seeing them presented by thee and held in thy maternal Heart, there is nothing that He will not do to give to each intention the one response worthy of the infinite mercy and love of His Sacred Heart. Praying in this way, I can be at rest, for thou art my Mother, and all that I entrust to thee will be, I am sure, received, and considered, and cared for with a Mother's love. Amen.

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[1000 silverlings]

If Metmom has accepted Christ as her personal Savior, she is in Christ’s church. God prefers tabernacles not made with human hands. A building is not the church.

[1000 silverlings]

When you get us all in your little boxes, what then?

[Judith Anne]

That’s what I said, The Church of Whatever MetMom Decides. Just another YOPIOS church, membership one.

[Quix]

Some folks have jobs . . . and/or express things hereon . . . which make disclosing much about their personal lives very DANGEROUS.

That’s the case for me though I’ve posted far more than has been wise.

It is all the worse if I end up a missionary again in Asia.

Some folks also have spouses who are absolutely rigidly firm about NO PERSONAL INFO TO BE SHARED ON THE NET AND PARTICULARLY SUCH FORUMS AS FR.

That is the case with at least one prominently posting Protty.

[wmfights]

What are the fastest growing churches in the northern hemisphere?

I believe it is Baptist/Evangelical and then Pentecostal.

I am a Born Again Christian. I was baptized a Baptist and attend a non-denominational church that is very baptistic. The church is called Moody Church named for one of our elders who was a great evangelist in his day, Dwight Moody.

[Judith Anne]

Then I will know better who is demanding information from me and others in the Catholic Church.

Boxes? You think denominations are boxes? I thought they were groups of people who share the same beliefs. Boxes can’t believe anything.

[Quix]

Well put.

[Quix]

lol. The RCC talks out of both sides of its mouth. Continually. And there will always be those who only see one lip moving.

INDEED.

[1000 silverlings]

Metmom didn’t decide anything, Christ did. Your theology is once again skewed.

[RnMomof7]

In my opinion, you are not remembering correctly.

Now Wag, you know the majority of Catholics do not even know the doctrine and even many of those that do are "cafeteria catholics "

[Quix]

I love it
when rabid clique
sorts of
BRAZENLY ABSURD
FALSE ASSERTIONS
get posted!
.
It's persistently clear
HEREON,
That a sizeable
percentage of
Roman Catholics et al
hereon
either
do not believe
the same thing
or do not
PRACTICE the same things
and/or
are in
DENIAL
about key aspects of such
beliefs and practices!
.
.
.
Paul was insane!
Paul was not insane!
as just a minor example.

[RnMomof7]

You mean the Catholic translation from the greek to the Latin?...Give me the original greek ??

New International Version (©1984)
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
New Living Translation (©2007)
“The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?

English Standard Version (©2001)
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
“The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
“The human mind is the most deceitful of all things. It is incurable. No one can understand how deceitful it is.

King James Bible
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

American King James Version
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

American Standard Version
The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly corrupt: who can know it?

Bible in Basic English
The heart is a twisted thing, not to be searched out by man: who is able to have knowledge of it?

Douay-Rheims Bible
The heart is perverse above all things, and unsearchable, who can know it?

Darby Bible Translation
The heart is deceitful above all things, and incurable; who can know it?

English Revised Version
The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is desperately sick: who can know it?

Webster’s Bible Translation
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

World English Bible
The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly corrupt: who can know it?

Young’s Literal Translation
Crooked is the heart above all things, And it is incurable — who doth know it?

[Judith Anne]

Dangerous to “express things hereon...” That would obtain for Catholics in a large part of Asia. Yet, knowing that, you freely demand that Catholics tell you every little thing about their faith life. If we don’t, you decide it’s because we CAN’T.

If I should go to India, as I’ve considered doing, what would await me there, in some regions? Or the Middle East, as I have been invited to go with a government agency? Wherever I go, I will go as a Catholic.

The “danger” dodge is baloney, quix, and you know it. I cannot imagine JR giving up any FReeper information. And give me a break. You are not that important.

[1000 silverlings]

lol, you are the only one demanding information around here

[Quix]

Sigh.

I sadly, must agree.

[Quix]

I have no need to spell it out for the umpteenth time.

Pay attention the first couple of dozen times.

Sheesh.

[1000 silverlings]

sorry , ping

[Quix]

INDEED.

THX.

[Judith Anne]

Well, read the REST of the thread. How many times has someone said, “The Catholics don’t answer because they can’t” in the past 500 posts?

[roamer_1]

Sorry, can’t keep up well with the thread - Has anyone from among the Romans actually answered the question yet?