Posted on 02/26/2010 1:08:31 AM PST by Gamecock
So I have a question about terminology.
Some of our Catholic FRiends get upset when we Prods use the term Roman Catholic, insisting that the term is derogatory, insulting, etc.
What I would like to discuss is why do Catholics complain about the term Roman Catholic, when the term is in such wide use inside of the Catholic church?
Thoughts?
what’s with some people’s ENTER button, tonight??? Triple and quad posts, are y’all skating for the gold???
When it comes to Roman Catholic (specific), then it is fine. But many people do not understand the difference beween Roman Catholic and Catholic and use the two terms interchangeably.
This move to delete the "Roman" from Roman Catholic seems confined to people under the age of 23 and cat lovers.
There is no deleting. I believe that you have the same objection when it comes to the naming of your particular sect as opposed to other Prebyterian or Reformed denominations.
Or perhaps it has occurred since a German pope now resides in the Vatican. Hmmm...
The Church has existed for 2 millennia. A German Pope is one in a line of Popes that go back to St. Peter.
You wrote:
“Why did you feel the need to post that monstrocity FOUR TIMES???”
It was good information. Annalex figured out why it wasn’t posting correctly.
“Get over the “Protestants who hate the Catholic Church” silliness.”
It’s not about me getting over it. It’s about anti-Catholics stopping it.
“It’s sounding like a broken-record, crybaby, wail.”
Well, don’t read the threads then, “crybaby, wail.”
“Take the name with the Capital “C” Catholic, already. You don’t get dibs in the word catholic, it means “universal” and it means the body of believers in Jesus Christ way before there was a pope in Rome.”
No, actually it always meant the Catholic Church and just the Catholic Church.
“At least admit that part?”
I have no need to admit something that is untrue.
Absolutely not. If you actually read my postings I am stating that there are a number of cultural practices and traditions within nearly all peoples that have nothing to do with their religion. Even the most severe Protestants are not immune or harmed by them.
Cultural and traditional influences of Buddhism being present in the lives of Asian Catholics is no different or worse or harmful than Druid and Pre-Christian pagan cultural and traditional influences being present in the lives of European and North American Protestants.
The Protestants who hate the Catholic Church" phenomenon is not a figment of anyone's imagination. All the proof that is needed is right here on Free Republic. All one has to do is post a Catholic related topic and some of the more prolific haters are drawn like flies to you-know-what on a hot afternoon. Simply reading the lies and insults posted ad naseum is proof they are not doing out of "Protestant love for the Catholic Church".
Every Catholic church I ever attended had a sign out in front that said it was a Roman Catholic church
So there are various sects within the Catholic church? Is it not true that the sect in America is "Roman Catholic"
Exactly my thought
LOL..That happens to me SOOOOO much ....( wish we had an edit button here)
It just adds another layer of false gods and practices to Catholism ...just keep moving along nothing to see here
I have read that Africa tribal Catholics sacrifice animals during the mass..you see the addition of primitive music dances, and pagan practices in South America and I recently read that in Haiti allow people to continue VooDoo.
There is little attempt to convert people to Christ, it is all about the numbers for the church
Many Americans that are atheists or Jewish use those holiday traditions that were given to the world as religious symbols by the Roman Catholic church in an attempt to convert the pagans.
They have become cultural as opposed to religious practices. I do not know one person that worships a Christmas tree or wreath.. However the actual inclusion of pagan worship in a service is a very different thing
It really makes my day when we agree, Thanks.
Yes sir !!
No they are not sects which implies they have different beliefs. If you link to the Wikipedia article it does give a rather thorough explanation. And there are Eastern Rite Catholic Churches in the U.S.
Luther’s alliance with the Turks?
You really are delusional. You are mixing the words of a single man from the 16th century with the actions of politicians and nations of the 17th.
The “Lutheran” and Muslim alliance to which you refer was nothing of the kind. It was an alliance of Hungary (which claimed to be protestant at the time) and the Ottoman Sultan against Poland. It was a political alliance with religion used a cloak for doing evil. Let me translate, the Hungarian princes coveted land that belonged to the Poles, and were willing to pay off the sultan for some more troops to help them do so. Nothing more and nothing less.
In the same way Catholic France, under the guidance of CARDINAL Richelieu, joined the war against Catholic Spain and the Holy Roman Empire, i.e., took the side of the protestants from 1635 until the end of the war in 1648. So, what do you have to say about that?
If you are going to make assertions about history, at least get your facts straight.
I suppose you think such things aren’t still done today.
Then by that definition evangelical Christians are not sects either.. as we all hold to salvation by Faith alone in Christ alone to the glory of God alone .
When I wrote of having the same beliefs I meant that Eastern Rite Catholics and Latin Rite Catholics believe in the teachings of the Church. This goes into a bit more detail than a very valid yet simple statement of faith.
Perhaps we have a different understanding of the word Sect. I am using it to mean the same as a denomination. Would you agree there are different beliefs between a Presbyterian and a Lutheran regarding some central matters of doctrine? For though both hold to Sola Fide they are not in agreement on the nature of Holy Communion or the question of double predestination. These are not minor points when the teachings of these two denominations are given closer examination.
For instance I and a Southern Baptist both believe that Christ died in atonement for our sins. We both believe that Christ is the second person of the Holy Trinity. True God and True man. But our respective beliefs on Baptism being a sacrament vs it being an ordinance are so in opposition I could never say I was a Baptist, nor could she say she was a Catholic. But I would agree fully that she is Christian.
Think of a sect or denomination being a subset of overall Christianity. We have many beliefs in common but we are separated by very real doctrinal disagreements. To just gloss over these and say they don’t matter is to me an insult to those who hold these beliefs.
wonderful post....
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