To: wagglebee; markomalley; Mad Dawg; stfassisi; Cronos; ArrogantBustard; Dr. Eckleburg; Iscool; ...
JPII: In fact, being assumed into heaven she has not laid aside this office of salvation but by her manifold intercession she continues to obtain for us the graces of eternal salvation.Wagglebee: The key phrase here is "obtain for us", this is totally different from saying that she dispenses salvation.
"Your honor, my client is clearly innocent. As the evidence plainly shows, he never DISPENSED drugs to his customers, he merely OBTAINED drugs for his customers."
7,934 posted on
02/01/2010 10:25:46 AM PST by
Forest Keeper
((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
To: Forest Keeper; markomalley; Mad Dawg; stfassisi; Cronos; ArrogantBustard; MarkBsnr; Judith Anne; ...
Pope John Paul II said:
In fact, being assumed into heaven she has not laid aside this office of salvation but by her manifold intercession she continues to obtain for us the graces of eternal salvation. My response:
The key phrase here is "obtain for us", this is totally different from saying that she dispenses salvation.
Forest Keeper's reply:
"Your honor, my client is clearly innocent. As the evidence plainly shows, he never DISPENSED drugs to his customers, he merely OBTAINED drugs for his customers."
I find it quite odd that you compare eternal salvation with the commission of a crime. Is there a reason for this?
You see, the argument falls apart when you remove its illicit nature. Let's try this one:
"Your honor, as the evidence clearly shows, the milk maid merely obtained the milk, the cow dispensed it."
7,936 posted on
02/01/2010 10:41:15 AM PST by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Forest Keeper; wagglebee
"Your honor, my client is clearly innocent. As the evidence plainly shows, he never DISPENSED drugs to his customers, he merely OBTAINED drugs for his customers."ROTFLOLOLOL!!!
7,942 posted on
02/01/2010 11:38:33 AM PST by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Forest Keeper
I will stand here because I can do no other: It just gives me the willies when giving birth is described or alluded to as “dispensing.” Go ahead, build the fire. I’m ready.
7,943 posted on
02/01/2010 11:56:18 AM PST by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Forest Keeper; wagglebee; markomalley; Mad Dawg; stfassisi; Cronos; ArrogantBustard; ...
"Your honor, my client is clearly innocent. As the evidence plainly shows, he never DISPENSED drugs to his customers, he merely OBTAINED drugs for his customers." LOL!!! I love to see the court case of the word "vernerate" compared to "worship". It would put Bill Clinton to shame.
To: Forest Keeper; wagglebee; markomalley; Mad Dawg; HarleyD; Cronos; ArrogantBustard
"Your honor, my client is clearly innocent. As the evidence plainly shows, he never DISPENSED drugs to his customers, he merely OBTAINED drugs for his customers." Try looking at in in the light of God's love rather than a criminal activity,dear brother
Like this example...
Mother Teresa took care of the poor and DISPENSED food,clothing and love but always gave credit to God for OBTAINING the food,clothing and love for them,thus,Mother Teresa was an instrument of God.
7,985 posted on
02/01/2010 5:37:04 PM PST by
stfassisi
((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
To: Forest Keeper; wagglebee; markomalley; Mad Dawg; stfassisi; Cronos; ArrogantBustard; ...
FK: "Your honor, my client is clearly innocent. As the evidence plainly shows, he never DISPENSED drugs to his customers, he merely OBTAINED drugs for his customers."
Paraphrasing "Your honor, my client is clearly innocent. As the evidence plainly shows, he never DISPENSED graces of eternal salvation to his customers, he merely OBTAINED graces of eternal salvation for his customers."
It still does work -- and yes, I guess you can say God's graces which are what saves us IS like a drug which we can never get enough of -- no human being can do without it, even Mary needed that grace for being saved.
And being a mother, she prays for our own salvation -- why would she pray for it if she could dispense it out?
8,015 posted on
02/02/2010 1:16:26 AM PST by
Cronos
(Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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