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To: Forest Keeper; wagglebee; markomalley; Mad Dawg; stfassisi; Cronos; ArrogantBustard; ...
FK: "Your honor, my client is clearly innocent. As the evidence plainly shows, he never DISPENSED drugs to his customers, he merely OBTAINED drugs for his customers."

Paraphrasing "Your honor, my client is clearly innocent. As the evidence plainly shows, he never DISPENSED graces of eternal salvation to his customers, he merely OBTAINED graces of eternal salvation for his customers."

It still does work -- and yes, I guess you can say God's graces which are what saves us IS like a drug which we can never get enough of -- no human being can do without it, even Mary needed that grace for being saved.

And being a mother, she prays for our own salvation -- why would she pray for it if she could dispense it out?
8,015 posted on 02/02/2010 1:16:26 AM PST by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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To: Cronos; wagglebee; markomalley; Mad Dawg; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg; Iscool; HarleyD; Quix; ...
And being a mother, [Mary] prays for our own salvation -- why would she pray for it if she could dispense it out?

Because, as I understand the Catholic belief, Mary is not the manufacturer of grace, she is the distributor. (I don't think Catholics believe that Mary is Divine and generates Divine grace herself.) So, her prayer would be, in effect, for the delivery from the manufacturer.

I've got a question about Mary as dispenser. Does Mary have right of refusal? If someone prays to Mary for God's grace can she say "no"? Many times I have seen praying to Saints compared with asking a friend to pray for us. But we have right of refusal. If my friend asked me to pray that his wife doesn't find out he's cheating on her I would not pray to God for that.

9,124 posted on 02/06/2010 1:53:00 PM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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