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(Audio) Some Advice for Catholics Who Want to Study Scripture More Deeply
Patrick Madrid ^ | 12-27-09 | Patrick Madrid

Posted on 12/28/2009 2:16:41 PM PST by Patrick Madrid

On my "Open Line" radio show last week (Thursdays from 3:00 to 5:00 p.m. ET), I took a call from Ryan in Baton Rouge. He asked for some advice on resources for studying Scripture in a systematic way. Here's what I told him. Take a listen . . .

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TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: 1tim47; bible; catholic; scripture

1 posted on 12/28/2009 2:16:42 PM PST by Patrick Madrid
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To: Patrick Madrid

With all due respect to everyone involved go to your local college which teaches Koine, and learn to read the New Testament in its original (or near original) language. You will better understand the text as received translated into English.

With this motivation, then study Ancient Hebrew.

Good luck in your journey.


2 posted on 12/28/2009 2:21:01 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

I wish we all had time to study Koine and Hebrew and Aramaic.

In the meantime I would recommend people buy the RSV2CE (especially the Ignatius Study Bible New Testament coming out in May), the RSV2CE Concordance (Emmaus Road Press), and a copy of Dom Orchard’s Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture (IIRC). Fuller’s (?) later edition is good too.

That’s a good start.


3 posted on 12/28/2009 2:30:40 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Patrick Madrid

I had no idea you were a FReeper, and that’s a shame.


4 posted on 12/28/2009 2:31:47 PM PST by papertyger (Representation without taxation is tyranny!)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

I’ve been thinking on doing that myself, particularly the Hebrew part. I don’t know why, I just know I would love to learn Hebrew. My question is, if all I’m planning on doing is reading Scriptures, can I learn it on-line? I mean, do I need to be able to pronounce it? I’ve found a few good sources for modern Hebrew, would it help any or would I be wasting my time? Thanks


5 posted on 12/28/2009 2:33:56 PM PST by Former Fetus
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Sure, Tom Paine, I’m with you on the importance of learning the biblical languages, but very few people today have the time, temperament, and aptitude for that.

So, with all due respect, your comment doesn’t really address the vast majority of people who want to more deeply study and understand God’s written word. That’s why I recommended those Scripture-study resources in the first place.


6 posted on 12/28/2009 2:39:26 PM PST by Patrick Madrid
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To: Patrick Madrid

I guess I’m a confused Bible student.

The Bible is in English. Strong’s has both Hebrew and Greek in its concordance.

Libraries are filled with commentaries, and on difficult passages, it is easy to narrow down the contentious issues (like Revelation 17).

There is NO NEED to learn either Greek or Hebrew.


7 posted on 12/28/2009 3:13:39 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

I agree. For the great majority of folks, there’s no need to learn the biblical languages, in part due to the reasons you mentioned. It’s important for some people to be competent in those languages, but not most people.At least that’s my opinion.


8 posted on 12/28/2009 3:23:05 PM PST by Patrick Madrid
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To: Patrick Madrid

My crazy son (not to be confused with the ones who are just “original”) decided we had to learn Greek when he was 4. We’re in Book 4 of “Hey Andrew, Teach Me Some Greek!” now. (He’s just turned 8.) It’s been good for his English grammar and vocabulary, as well as allowing him to comment on fraternity signs when we visit a university.

On topic, I like the Navarre Bible Commentaries and the Bible studies published by “The Word Among Us.”


9 posted on 12/28/2009 3:44:14 PM PST by Tax-chick (For those who seek, there must be seen a little Child, God before the ages.)
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To: Former Fetus
I’ve been thinking on doing that myself, particularly the Hebrew part. I don’t know why, I just know I would love to learn Hebrew. My question is, if all I’m planning on doing is reading Scriptures, can I learn it on-line? I mean, do I need to be able to pronounce it?

You can get a lot out of it whether you learn to pronounce it or not. Just a suggestion though - if you decide to learn to speak Hebrew, do not follow the typical seminary process. It makes you sound like an idiot to anyone who knows how to speak Hebrew (whether modern, or using Ashkenazi pronunciation). No, the tav does not make a "th" sound, nor does the vav make a waw sound... sheesh.
10 posted on 12/28/2009 3:58:30 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

I had been thinking on using the Jerusalem Post’s Learn Hebrew on-line service. It would be a stepping stone towards learning ancient Hebrew. And, yes, Patrick Madrid and Salvavida, I’m well aware that you do not have to learn Hebrew or Greek to study the Scriptures, but I would dearly love to do so!


11 posted on 12/28/2009 4:35:57 PM PST by Former Fetus
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To: Patrick Madrid

I had a Franciscan priest who was a spiritual director tell me that the starting point for scripture, for an adult Catholic anyway, was to read the Gospel of John. Then read it again. And again and again and again. When you have read it a lot, move on to John’s Letters.

After that, I don’t know, because he moved away and I got sidetracked. I’m thinking maybe it was Genesis next.

But reading the Gospel of John enough to become really familiar with it can’t be a bad thing, anyway.


12 posted on 12/29/2009 12:14:00 PM PST by married21
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To: married21

Sometimes you just end up seeing the perfect posting at the best time. Thank you for posting this.


13 posted on 12/29/2009 12:15:58 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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