[catfish1957]

Hey those were the only two that came to mind. The Catholic Church over the past two millennium has had less than a pristine past. This again from the priest who called my Religion a “scandalous sect” (Protestant...Presbyterian)

[Cronos]

The Catholic Church over the past two millennium has had less than a pristine past

True, we've had loads of rogue Popes -- may they burn in hell. Sorry for being so blunt, but as Kolokotronis, the road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops. Bishops and Popes should be held to higher standards than lay folk. And many of the Popes and Bishops and priests in the Church have failed.

The fact that The Church still survives INSPITE of those is proof of God's grace smiling on The Church.

However, the issues against non-Catholic groups is to be based on their dogma. I don't blame ECUSA for killing Catholics in the Middle Ages, but I do blame them for Gene Robinson

[Cronos]

Hey those were the only two that came to mind

And if the only things against The Church you could bring up were the crusades and the spanish inquisition, I just showed you how wrong and/or hyped up those accusations are -- think of how wrong the others are as well..

[Salvation]

**pristine past**

And what of your church? Do they support abortion?

Do they support euthanasia?

Do they support contraception?

Do they support homosexuality?

Do they support stem cell research and the destroying of embryos to do so?

The Catholic Church has stood staunchly and firmly on all these issues. Yes, the past may not be all pristine, but is any church’s past pristine? It borders on the edge of being a truly ridiculous statement.