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History Channel Announces "Global Event" For May 25th...
http://www.lookupfellowship.com/2009/05/history-channel-announces-global-event.html ^ | May 14th, 2009

Posted on 05/18/2009 12:19:54 PM PDT by TaraP

The History Channel has been running an unusual 14-second ad that simply says:

"May 25, 2009. A Global Event. This Changes Everything."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eg7ICKJrhg

Maybe this? ISBN:9780316070089 Library Bound #: 619216

Format: Hardcover

Price: $28.99 Pub Date: May 2009

Lying inside a high security vault, deep within the heart of one of the world’s leading museums, is a discovery that will change textbooks, change science, and change how we understand the human race.

The author of Untitled has been given exclusive access to all of the research and the team of top scientists who have been validating the discovery, the announcement of which will send shock waves around the world.

The discovery will be announced at a major press conference followed by a media blitz and a documentary that will air on the History Channel following the press conference.

More deception?


TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: afradapis; darwiniusmasillae; geraldo; godsgravesglyphs; historychannel; ida; longicristatus; pravdamedia; publicitystunt; revisionisthistory; science; urlisnotthesource
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks for all your pings and posts.


381 posted on 05/22/2009 9:21:47 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wmfights
Would you include Saudia Arabia in that group?

Hmmm... was Saudi Arabia a nation at the time of Christ? Nope.

How many times have kingdoms come and gone in the past 2000 years? How many borders have changed? How many nation states have been broken up, split, combined, overrun, politically fallen, etc... in the past 300 years?

What does "all nations" or "the whole world" mean when used in Scripture? Does it mean every tribe/people group/political nation state/whatever at the time of Christ, now, or in the future?

Could it be that having to include the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in that group (which would have been impossible 300 years ago) is a construct of a fairly young eschatological system?

I understand your view of islam as a creation of man's sin nature with no outside influence.

I didn't say that. But, Satan cannot make it start nor make it stick around. It's the sinfulness of those dedicated to the false religion that started it and keep it going.

Also, my understanding in the amillenial thinking is that Christianity continues to grow until the entire Earth is Christian.You're thinking post-mil. Even us optimistic amils don't go quite so far as saying that the entire earth will be Christian. This is sort of the point of divide between amils and post mils. Us optimistic amils believe Christianity will constantly grow (as evidenced by actual numbers between 2000 years ago and today). Most Post-mils expect a worldwide church centered government or governments. Amil doesn't expect as much, thus we've been labeled pessimists even when we aren't as pessimistic as some of other amil counterparts that expect ebbs and tides in the number of Christians and the social influence of Christ worldwide until the end.

Looking at the demographic trends I can't help but say Christianity is not growing.

Well, by pure numbers, there are alot more people on the earth every time it's estimated than there were the previous estimate. It would make only good sense that as the Gospel is spread the actual number of Christians grows. As for demographics, consider the difference between a true Christian and those who claim to be Christian. There is no good way to know the actual number of the elect because we don't have the ability to read the hearts of men. But, as the actual population grows and as we approach the end, it's my belief that the number (not percentage) is growing.
382 posted on 05/22/2009 9:24:02 PM PDT by raynearhood ("Naysayers for Jesus" - Charter Member)
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To: raynearhood

Nope.

I’m Not the least bit convinced.

The evidence screams far too loudly . . .

However, even if I were to lay it all out in great detail . . .

would likely not be believed . . . denial works that way.

Perhaps if folks asked God to show them, He would find some way to break through with clear communication and evidence.

It’s obvious no one else but God could effectively communicate about such things.

And, in my experience, He rarely bothers unless the individual demonstrates a long persistent desire to truly know the truth of such matters.

I assure you, the residue of the Vatican system is very evident on a fair number hereon. Some are just the most vivid examples.


383 posted on 05/22/2009 9:25:54 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

You’re welcome, although I’m sure it was a bit overwhelming to see a whole glut of them sitting there... LOL...


384 posted on 05/22/2009 9:26:29 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Quix; topcat54; Lee N. Field
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such... proffered before in all my 62 years

Well, life is a series of lessons and you learn something new every day!
385 posted on 05/22/2009 9:26:42 PM PDT by raynearhood ("Naysayers for Jesus" - Charter Member)
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To: the_Watchman

Well put.


386 posted on 05/22/2009 9:26:46 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Star Traveler; TaraP; Blogger; wmfights; Jo Nuvark

I like Zech 1:16-17: Message version:

Zechariah 1:16-17 (The Message)

16-17”’I’ve come back to Jerusalem, but with compassion this time.’
This is God speaking.
‘I’ll see to it that my Temple is rebuilt.’
A Decree of God-of-the-Angel-Armies!
‘The rebuilding operation is already staked out.’
Say it again—a Decree of God-of-the-Angel-Armies:
‘My cities will prosper again,
God will comfort Zion again,
Jerusalem will be back in my favor again.’”


IIRC,

from the time of Zechariah to the present . . . those verses have NOT been fulfilled.

Sure, there was a Temple at the time of Christ. However, Zion was hardly comforted. Jerusalem under the Romans was far from ‘favored.’

NOPE, No irrational rubber history is possible to explain away those verses.

They have yet to be fulfilled.


387 posted on 05/22/2009 9:48:03 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: the_Watchman; Star Traveler; TaraP; Blogger; wmfights; Jo Nuvark

My earlier just above is demonstrated as future all the more so in Zech 2:4:

“Run! Tell the Surveyor, ‘Jerusalem will burst its walls—
bursting with people, bursting with animals.
And I’ll be right there with her’—God’s Decree—’a wall of fire
around unwalled Jerusalem and a radiant presence within.’”

= = = =

Clearly the wall of fire and a radiant Presence within has yet to descend upon Jerusalem.

Yet it WILL—most vividly, most literally.


388 posted on 05/22/2009 9:51:57 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; the_Watchman; Star Traveler; TaraP; Blogger; wmfights; Jo Nuvark

And Zech 2:8-9 vividly describe’s God’s attitude toward

THOSE WHO

‘HITS’ Israel . . . the children of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob . . .

we could say . . . who are negative toward Israel . . .

“Anyone who hits you, hits me—bloodies my nose, blackens my eye. Yes, and at the right time I’ll give the signal and they’ll be stripped and thrown out by their own servants.” Then you’ll know for sure that God-of-the-Angel-Armies sent me on this mission.


389 posted on 05/22/2009 9:55:35 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; the_Watchman; Star Traveler; TaraP; Blogger; wmfights; Jo Nuvark

And Zech 2:11-12 is also quite interesting . . .

Zechariah 2:11-12 (The Message)

11-12Many godless nations will be linked up with God at that time. (”They will become my family! I’ll live in their homes!”) And then you’ll know for sure that God-of-the-Angel-Armies sent me on this mission. God will reclaim his Judah inheritance in the Holy Land. He’ll again make clear that Jerusalem is his choice.

HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.

“IN THE HOLY LAND”

“He’ll again make clear that Jerusalem is His choice.”

No irrational, rubber history, rubber Bible explanation will do.

No preterist, amil, post-mil, run-of-the-mill rationalizations and mental mangling of the Biblical nor historical evidence will alter God’s truths above the least microgram, sub-atomic particle’s worth.

No such even makes sense along-side such Scriptures.


390 posted on 05/22/2009 9:59:25 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; the_Watchman; Star Traveler; TaraP; Blogger; wmfights; Jo Nuvark

Here’s an interesting Biblical picture awaiting future development:

Zech 3:2:

I, God, rebuke you, Accuser! I rebuke you and choose Jerusalem. Surprise! Everything is going up in flames, but I reach in and pull out Jerusalem!”

= = = =

EVERYTHING is going up IN FLAMES . . . yet GOD ALMIGHTY reaches in and pulls out Jerusalem!

Doesn’t the least bit sound like GOD ALMIGHTY has done with Jerusalem ANYTHING CLOSE

to what the preterists, amils, post-mils and run-of-the-mills have, in their lofty haughtiness ‘decreed’ what God has done with Jerusalem.

HE will have all such in derision.


391 posted on 05/22/2009 10:03:06 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; the_Watchman; Star Traveler; TaraP; Blogger; wmfights; Jo Nuvark

More fascinating truths from GOD’S HOLY WORD about Israel and Jerusalem . . .

Zech 3:9:

And note this: This stone that I’m placing before Joshua, a single stone with seven eyes’—Decree of God-of-the-Angel-Armies—’I’ll engrave with these words: “I’ll strip this land of its filthy sin, all at once, in a single day.”

HASN’T HAPPENED YET.

Certainly the sins of the moon god idolaters are rampant in parts of Jerusalem and Israel.

Also the sins of the secular Israeli’s.

Even the Orthodox are likely about as righteous in many cases as the pharisees of Jesus’ earthly days.

Nope. This Scripture has YET to be fulfilled.

But the day is looming closer and closer at hand.


392 posted on 05/22/2009 10:06:45 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Zechariah is called the Revelation of the Old Testament... :-)


393 posted on 05/22/2009 10:08:16 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

For good cause!

I love it. Particularly in THE MESSAGE version.

It is so vividly current, alive, relevant, GOD-TYPE-DRAMATIC.

Much appreciate your scholarship.

I’m just a bungling layman that tries to read, study and listen to Holy Spirit about such passages.


394 posted on 05/22/2009 10:09:52 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; the_Watchman; Star Traveler; TaraP; Blogger; wmfights; Jo Nuvark

Zech 4:9 is fascinating . . .

Does anyone dare despise this day of small beginnings?

= = =

I realize it was specifically about that historical event mentioned about the rebuilding at that time.

HOWEVER . . .

preterists, amils, post-mils and the run-of-the-mills

essentially persistently write as though they look down their haughty long noses at current Israel . . . as though in their lofty omniscient perspectives, current Israel is hardly worth their dirty snot rag’s worth of consideration.

= = =

Thankfully, GOD ALMIGHTY HAS A VERY DIFFERENT ATTITUDE AND PERSPECTIVE TOWARD ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM and those Israeli’s yet to return to THE HOLY LAND.


395 posted on 05/22/2009 10:14:29 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; the_Watchman; Star Traveler; TaraP; Blogger; wmfights; Jo Nuvark

Zech 5:1-4 is quite fascinating, to me:

“This book is the verdict going out worldwide against thieves and liars. The first half of the book disposes of everyone who steals; the second half takes care of everyone who lies. I launched it”—Decree of God-of-the-Angel-Armies—”and so it will fly into the house of every thief and every liar. It will land in each house and tear it down, timbers and stones.”

= = =

I can just imagine the willfully ignorant ones will likely try and spiritualize all that . . .

However, there will be some sort of literal fulfillment of that—a very vivid literal fulfillment.

AND IT HAS CERTAINLY NOT HAPPENED, YET! We know from just observing the DIMRATS that liars and thieves are still in GREAT ABUNDANCE on the planet . . . and gaining ground by the day—for a short season.


396 posted on 05/22/2009 10:17:38 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alamo-Girl; airborne; AngieGal; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; backhoe; bearsgirl90; BigBadWolf; ...

END TIMES B LEVEL PING LIST PING

Some of you may be interested in my tweaky Zechariah commentary/ pontifications above and to follow.


397 posted on 05/22/2009 10:24:30 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


398 posted on 05/22/2009 10:26:42 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix; the_Watchman; TaraP; Blogger; wmfights; Jo Nuvark

Well, Quix, since you like Zechariah so much, I present you with “Ezekiel” and the “Dry Bones Prophecy” of Israel...

I have included Chapter 37, but I’m calling attention to verses 11; 21-22; and 25-27 first...

ALSO, ask yourself how many times God has to repeat *FOREVER* before someone believes God? LOL...

11 Then He said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They indeed say, ‘Our bones are dry, our hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off!’

[ ... ]

21 Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land;

22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again.

[ ... ]

25 Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children’s children, forever; and My servant David shall be their prince forever.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set My sanctuary in their midst forevermore.

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them; indeed I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 28 The nations also will know that I, the Lord, sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.” ‘ “


Ezekiel 37

1 The hand of the Lord came upon me and brought me out in the Spirit of the Lord, and set me down in the midst of the valley; and it was full of bones.

2 Then He caused me to pass by them all around, and behold, there were very many in the open valley; and indeed they were very dry.

3 And He said to me, “Son of man, can these bones live?” So I answered, “O Lord God, You know.”

4 Again He said to me, “Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, ‘O dry bones, hear the word of the Lord! 5 Thus says the Lord God to these bones: “Surely I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live.

6 I will put sinews on you and bring flesh upon you, cover you with skin and put breath in you; and you shall live. Then you shall know that I am the Lord.” ‘ “

7 So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and suddenly a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to bone.

8 Indeed, as I looked, the sinews and the flesh came upon them, and the skin covered them over; but there was no breath in them.

9 Also He said to me, “Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they may live.” ‘ “

10 So I prophesied as He commanded me, and breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceedingly great army.

11 Then He said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They indeed say, ‘Our bones are dry, our hope is lost, and we ourselves are cut off!’

12 Therefore prophesy and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Behold, O My people, I will open your graves and cause you to come up from your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 Then you shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O My people, and brought you up from your graves.

14 I will put My Spirit in you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land. Then you shall know that I, the Lord, have spoken it and performed it,” says the Lord.’ “

15 Again the word of the Lord came to me, saying,

16 “As for you, son of man, take a stick for yourself and write on it: ‘For Judah and for the children of Israel, his companions.’ Then take another stick and write on it, ‘For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel, his companions.’

17 Then join them one to another for yourself into one stick, and they will become one in your hand.

18 “And when the children of your people speak to you, saying, ‘Will you not show us what you mean by these?’—

19 say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will join them with it, with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand.” ‘

20 And the sticks on which you write will be in your hand before their eyes.

21 Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land;

22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again.

23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. Then they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

24 “David My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd; they shall also walk in My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them.

25 Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children’s children, forever; and My servant David shall be their prince forever.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; I will establish them and multiply them, and I will set My sanctuary in their midst forevermore.

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them; indeed I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 28 The nations also will know that I, the Lord, sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.” ‘ “


Can *anyone* be *so ignorant* as to mistake the fact that God has not forsaken or abandoned Israel?

Yes..., those who perpetrate a “Satanic teaching” from *defective theology* that says Israel is not longer significant or in prophecy for our time.

Ignore all *Satanic theology* which promotes the destruction of Israel either in real-life with guns and bullets, or in the minds of Christians with “doctrines of demons”...


399 posted on 05/22/2009 10:33:38 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

INDEED.

I think many folks spiritualize David being their Prince forever into Christ.

Certainly Christ will be king of kings and Lord of Lords . . .

But as I’ve often read that Scripture . . . I’ve persistently felt it was to be literally ancient King David being the local regent over Israel under Christ in perpetuity.

We shall see.

Thx.


400 posted on 05/22/2009 10:44:30 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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