Clean up needed on aisle 5....
Posted on 03/16/2009 6:19:18 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
"God exists, and he's American" is the judgment of Dr. Milton Glass, fictional nuclear physicist from the acclaimed Alan Moore-Dave Gibbons comic Watchmen, when he learns that Jon Osterman, has come back from the dead. Osterman disputes Glass's judgment, but the new deity's protest rings as hollow as his promise of fealty to his first girlfriend.
In the story, Osterman dies in a freak lab accident that is the stuff of countless superhero origin stories. It utterly obliterates his body but leaves his mind intact and powerful. Osterman then re-creates himself from scratch. He is not just reborn but transfigured and renamed, as the world's oddest crime fighter: Dr. Manhattan. By the end of the tale, Manhattan even talks of Osterman as a different person.
Obviously, Dr. Manhattan looks different. He has the skin of a Smurf, the body of a Greek god. He crackles with energy and can manipulate other matter with the same ease that he reconstructed himself. Less obviously: His changed perceptions bracket him off from the rest of mankind. He can see things at the molecular level but is puzzled by basic human emotions and conventions. His women complain that they can't connect with him and he often walks around in his rebirthday suit. He perceives time differently as well -- the future and the past run together.
Dr. Manhattan is clearly a sort of god. After the mystery at the heart of Watchmen is resolved, he professes a newfound fondness for human life and muses, "perhaps I'll create some" -- elsewhere in the universe. But what sort of a god is he?
Enter: irony. One group that is not likely to come out in great numbers to see the new film Watchmen is members in good standing of the
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Gee, I just did a search to find the information that you have used. I couldn't find any.
It appears that those who do NOT post any information at all are afraid to be put on the spot about the accuracy of the information they have.
Perhaps they are following the wrong course.
LOL...
You among them.
Yeah, I'd say 7 million Americans signing a petition in a pre-activist era against a brazen polygamist shows they had quite a "hang up" with putting a law-breaker into Congress!!!
(Can I get you a bucket, madam? You "projectile" quite well yourself)
In my opinion, posters who limit their postings to include nothing but carping, caviling, accusing, complaining and ignoring forum rules about "making it personal" do not have a leg to stand on in criticizing OR QUESTIONING the contibution to the discussions by other FReepers.
Ping me when you have something to offer besides the usual, Fred. Otherwise, I'm done.
Both in the actor and the audience...
You have asked this question twice Fred. Why? Are you thinking about trying something new?
Eph 4
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
There are many here who try 24/7 to deceive as written in 14...
Blessed be to Jesus who gave us some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
You keep doing it, folks will begin to think that you believe it is ok to use false evidence.
So whose hand is empty again?
You sure have a knack for mindreading. Isn't that against the rules? Do you think posters should obey the rules as well as being responsible for posting turht?
I could recommend at least one of BH Robert’s Books. “Studies of the Book of Mormon”. He sets out in honest search of proof of the BoM, and ends up seeing for the fraud it is.
Clean up needed on aisle 5....
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
So, if I read you right, you are saying that we should NOT used the BIBLE to understand false doctrine?
And then are you saying that we SHOULD use LDS 'scripture' to understand TRUE doctrine?
I am truly confused as to the logic of this!
So, if I read you right, you are saying that we should NOT used the BIBLE to understand false doctrine?
And then are you saying that we SHOULD use LDS 'scripture' to understand TRUE doctrine?
I am truly confused as to the logic of this!
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)
HMmmm...
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