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To: Elsie; restornu
You will not 'share' the UNTRUTHs of PRESBYTERINAism - but then - neither did Joseph Smith.

You keep saying this, I have no idea what Restornu found wrong with being a Presbyterian, or for that matter that anything was wrong, she may have just found more in the LDS church.

As for Joseph smith, it's pretty clear (except for those who don't want to see) that Joseph had a problem with the trinity after being called as a prophet and seeing Jesus stand on the right hand of God (just like Stephen). Once Joseph had seen with his own eyes the falseness of Trinitarian belief, it's not surprising that he didn't join.
74 posted on 02/16/2009 8:41:56 AM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser; Elsie

You keep saying this, I have no idea what Restornu found wrong with being a Presbyterian, or for that matter that anything was wrong, she may have just found more in the LDS church

He does not know either but it seems to makes good fodder for Elsie!


75 posted on 02/16/2009 8:47:12 AM PST by restornu (Give me the right to issue and control a nationÂ’s money and I care not who governs the country B.D.)
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To: DelphiUser
As for Joseph smith, it's pretty clear (except for those who don't want to see) that Joseph had a problem with the trinity after being called as a prophet and seeing Jesus stand on the right hand of God (just like Stephen).

Sorry; but CLARITY is not observed in JS' claim.

Likewise - none is seen in yours.

81 posted on 02/16/2009 9:47:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
You keep saying this, I have no idea what Restornu found wrong with being a Presbyterian, or for that matter that anything was wrong, she may have just found more in the LDS church.

NONE of us do!

She seems to refer to it in an oblique way, but never articulates any UNTRUTHFULLNESS the she had seen in Presbyterianism in comparison to MORMONism.

82 posted on 02/16/2009 9:51:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser

As for Joseph smith, it’s pretty clear (except for those who don’t want to see) that Joseph had a problem with the trinity after being called as a prophet and seeing Jesus stand on the right hand of God (just like Stephen).
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1. It’s not CLEAR...

2. Where’s the written documentation that states “Joseph had a problem with the trinity after being called as a prophet and seeing Jesus stand on the right hand of God (just like Stephen).” in Joe Smith’s own words...

3. If Joe Smith said he saw “Jesus stand on the right hand of God (just like Stephen).”, where’s the documentation ???

4. Joe Smith alleges that he saw “two personages” in a grove...that the “two personages” came to him...

Stephen looked into HEAVEN and saw Jesus at the right hand of God...

Act 7:55 But he, (Stephen) being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into Heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Acts 7:55, 56

Nope, definitely no the same...

Even Joe Smith never said it was the same...


89 posted on 02/16/2009 10:19:31 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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