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1 posted on 11/13/2008 9:59:58 AM PST by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 11/13/2008 10:00:58 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer
This is why the Pope himself must reign in these blasphemous bunch of fools who would lead the faithful astray. Sadly it is perhaps too late, while I live across the street from my Church I have not had to will to enter these past few years. The divergence from Rome and the Holy Father is more than I can handle. I grew up watching the Church here in the States transforming itself into a populist cult that people have lost interest in, hence the sharp decline in attendance.
3 posted on 11/13/2008 10:13:18 AM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: NYer

if I said what I was thinking.....I’d have to head back to confession.


4 posted on 11/13/2008 10:14:37 AM PST by mockingbyrd (Sarah 2012!)
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To: NYer; mockingbyrd
The bishops I spoke to say that maybe half of their brother bishops if not more voted for Obama.

This makes me ill.

5 posted on 11/13/2008 10:17:28 AM PST by livius
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It would be most interesting to know how many of the bishops appointed or elevated by Papa Ratzinger voted for the baby killer. My suspicion is few or none. The direction of the episcopal body is a good one, because the current Pope takes his responsibility to “feed My sheep” seriously.


13 posted on 11/13/2008 11:01:08 AM PST by Faraday
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It was actions such as this that caused me to stop tithing years ago. I came to the conclusion that to fund the Bishops was to cooperate in evil. We do give donations but only to organizations that actually help people (Catholic orphanages for example) and the few collections that don’t fall under Parish Share.


16 posted on 11/13/2008 11:33:34 AM PST by Varda
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No excuse for the laity to lose the Faith!

We have all the means to stay the course, including good Bishops and preachers.


18 posted on 11/13/2008 11:47:20 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: NYer

No excuse for the laity to lose the Faith!

We have all the means to stay the course, including good Bishops and preachers.


19 posted on 11/13/2008 11:48:28 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: NYer

“The bishops I spoke to say that maybe half of their brother bishops if not more voted for Obama. “

Why am I not surprised by this?


20 posted on 11/13/2008 12:06:25 PM PST by rogator
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“The bishops I spoke to say that maybe half of their brother bishops if not more voted for Obama. “

Why am I not surprised by this?


21 posted on 11/13/2008 12:10:20 PM PST by rogator
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Many Catholics equate supporting the death penalty with supporting abortion. I don't get it since one is the taking of a very few lives of convicted murderers and one is the taking of tens of millions of innocent lives. I think that they just use this as an excuse to soothe their consciences when what they really want to support is the "social justice" (aka socialism) policies of the left.

Ted Turner made a multi-part series about the cold war a few years ago. It contained the comparison "They had the gulag; we had Kent State." I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't being shown in our schools brainwashing America's youth into thinking that we are an evil country....infuriating

28 posted on 11/13/2008 2:16:47 PM PST by Freee-dame
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“How in the world can we be surprised if 45 percent of Mass attending Catholics voted for Obama if that percentage or more of the Bishops did. Though even if this was ten or five percent it would still be scandalous.”


30 posted on 11/13/2008 2:22:07 PM PST by victim soul
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Well ,now we know why there’s no rush to deny communion or excommunicate Pelosi, Biden and their ilk.


33 posted on 11/13/2008 4:17:57 PM PST by voiceinthewind
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Hardly news. My guess is that a large percentage voted for John Kerry in 2004, even though he was a symbol of nothing.

But by and large this is the same group of bishops who presided over the pederast priest disaster, who if my perception is not wrong, think of the Church’s mission as auxilary to the welfare-state.


35 posted on 11/13/2008 7:15:17 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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**The bishops I spoke to say that maybe half of their brother bishops if not more voted for Obama. Because they thought the symbol of Obama would overcome racism and be a great healer and unity.**

"The walls of hell are lined with the skulls of bishops."
Saint John of the Cross

 

"The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops."

Attributed to St. Athanasius, St. John Chrysostom, and St. John Eudes. Probably all three said it, but I like to give credit to Athanasius because he was the earliest.

 

Attributed to St. Athanasius, St. John Chrysostom, and St. John Eudes. Probably all three said it, but I like to give credit to Athanasius because he was the earliest.


36 posted on 11/13/2008 7:31:08 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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Raymond Arroyo: ...The bishops I spoke to say that maybe half of their brother bishops if not more voted for Obama. Because they thought the symbol of Obama would overcome racism and be a great healer and unity.

Yes. that's right. It's more important to vote for someone because of the color of their skin than not vote for them because they're pro-infanticide.

{{{rolls eyes}}}

42 posted on 11/13/2008 10:31:17 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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