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To: DanielLongo; svcw
ldsers believe they will become god, I guess you have already made “it” so to speak to know my heart [svcw]

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? So, you can put down that stone. Unless you want more scriptures? [DanielLongo]

DL, you know as well as the rest of us that Jesus was simply quoting Psalm 82 in John 10. Here's Psalm 82, and especially note the verses & words in bold face:

1God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
2How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
5They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

Wanna explain, DL, how it is that these "gods" will "die like men?" (v. 7). Wanna explain, DL, how it is that these "gods" are unjust judges? (v. 2)

Even LDS apostle James Talmage recognized that John 10 & Ps. 82 is a reference to human judges empowered with divine authority:

"Plainly they had found no ambiguity in His words. He then cited to them the scriptures, wherein even judges empowered by divine authority are called gods...." (Jesus the Christ, chapter 28)

Being "called" a god Scripturally is not the same thing as being (or becoming) by nature a divine being. For example, your wallet can become a person's "god." That doesn't mean your wallet is by nature a "god."

163 posted on 08/17/2008 4:18:56 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Your question is best put to Christ. It is His quote, not mine. The meaning of His words is clear:

If a man be called a god by God, what is your problem. We can become gods is exactly what the Psalmist is saying. We do not become God, unless you believe in the Trinity because it says:

John 17 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

Your teaching of the Trinity is that Jesus and Heavenly Father are the same being because the scriptures say Jesus is one with the Father. Following that line of thinking, then we are also to be part of the Trinity. By your own theology we are not just gods, but God. Of course, this can only be true if you believe the concept of the Trinity, which I might add is mentioned nowhere in the scriptures

168 posted on 08/17/2008 4:37:25 PM PDT by DanielLongo
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