Posted on 08/15/2008 1:47:27 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
First:
And the angel of God said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth. And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over all the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people. – Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 14:10-11
How is this an attack on Christianity? Do you confuse a particular church with "Christianity"? If so, what church do you believe is "Christianity"?
apastate - another slam
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
So, you can put down that stone. Unless you want more scriptures?
What are you talking about? Is this the part where you go incoherent?
There used to be a whole lot more sites with those lyrics on them....many have “disappeared”.
http://www.lds.org/cm/catalogsearchalpha/1,17929,4782-1-1,00.html#nullLink
Oh, yeah, I can see that:
By the way do you mean a son of god or The Son of God?
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Are you saying Jesus is not the Son God?
1 Jn. 5: 5, 9-13, 20
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
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9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
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20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
John 3: 16-18, 36
16 ¶ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 ¶ He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
Luke 4: 3, 9, 41
3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.
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9 And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:
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41 And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.
Rom. 8: 3, 14, 19
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
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14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
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19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
They have read through, that is why they are here, it’s time for the varsity team to give it a go. If they make the same failed arguments with as little more arrogance and authority they think they have a better shot.
My point made perfectly. Thank you for supplying the link.
Thoughtful opposition will always be met with civility and discourse.
The brand of “liars and bigots” found on FR will also be dealt with accordingly.
Oh, yeah, I can see that:
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You forgot to include this greyfoxx39
I have long admired people like Chuck Colson and James Dobson. I am being wounded in the house of my friends and it saddens me.
1 posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 11:59:30 PM by DanielLongo
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The Varsity team showed up? Sweet.
At best the BOM is a clever mixing of several traditions and histories. Even a devout Mormon like Thomas Ferguson could find nothing, and he has not been alone in that, both archaeologically or in Genetic Science.
The DNA evidence is equally as thin, the idea of various human migrations to the new world is a continuing field of study, but any DNA links can be explained my simple migrations, and do not provide equal evidence of a massive civilization that should have numerous ruins and mentions in the oral histories of the Native American people.
Grasping at other cultures as proof is tacky, but expected. You should have snagged the Incans or Mayans, their ruins still stand, and you could lay claim to their "ancestors", the 12 Colonies of man from Battlestar Galactica. After all it is a modern fairy tale as well...
Yes, and I’ll keep it simple,use google. Find any non LDS source that says the Hopewell Indians were the Nephites. You aren’t too lazy to research are you?
Yes it is, more for the offering...
Oh, you want some proof, huh?
How about this?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2044024/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2038427/posts
Unless gay clergy and fornication/non-marital sex are accepted practices of the true church of Christ, it looks like the two personages who told Joseph Smith that “Presbyterianism is not true” were indeed telling Joseph Smith the truth. That is unless you want to defend these activities as part of the true church of Christ.
Hey it was you that judged my heart.
Do not know why you decided to quote scriptures.
I asked do you believe Jesus is a son of god or The Son of God?
What is the deal with the scripture the question is for you.
By the way who is Jesus?
If there is only...
Oh never mind I hate pointing out the obvious when others are playing word games and think it's working...
Varsity team not what I expected...
Oh well maybe when I get back from my shop it will be better, my 8N is not running right.
Go team!
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