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1 posted on 08/07/2008 6:25:36 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 08/07/2008 6:26:13 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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SHROUD STORY
3 posted on 08/07/2008 6:26:44 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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Dr August Accetta, California, has carried out a fascinating experiment in which he injected himself with a radioactive compound used in medical imaging to show up internal organs. He then assumed the pose of the man imaged on the TS and a gamma camera imaged the radioactivity emanating from his body. The results astonishingly replicated most of the features of the image on the TS....

....right before the California lab was destroyed by something still considered "top secret" by the U.S. Army.


5 posted on 08/07/2008 6:45:43 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: NYer

I’ve always surmised that the image was due to ionizing radiation emanating from a piece of statuary made of rock containing radioactive materials. The early Byzantine history of the Image of Edessa claims that the original stood untouched in the walls of Edessa for five hundred years, and was found in the company of an exact duplicate of the cloth image on a “tile.”


7 posted on 08/07/2008 6:57:02 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
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So now we’re supposed to trust academia? They can’t even tell the truth about economics.


10 posted on 08/07/2008 7:32:36 AM PDT by dsc
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To: NYer

I believe it is the genuine thing.

I hope the tests will confirm its authenticity.

The summary above omits numerous other facts which have lead Sindonologists to conclude a forgery is not possible here.


11 posted on 08/07/2008 7:35:00 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: NYer
Byzantine tradition refers to a shroud bearing an image of Christ taken from Jerusalem to Turkey in the first century, then lost, rediscovered and brought to Constantinople in 944.

Actually, the Mandylion of Edessa was discovered in Edessa in the 544 AD, so if the Shroud is the Mandylion, that brings it back to 544, not 944.

12 posted on 08/07/2008 7:40:11 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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13 posted on 08/07/2008 8:08:27 AM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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Shroud article... PING!

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16 posted on 08/07/2008 8:18:28 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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This is not a very good recap of the current state of the art in Shroud research... I will look at it in more detail when I have time.
18 posted on 08/07/2008 8:21:47 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: NYer

I believe this is the Shroud of Christ...


20 posted on 08/07/2008 8:35:10 AM PDT by Raineygoodyear (AKA Crimmy)
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Even if the shroud can be dated back to the time of the death of Christ it still would not be proof that it was His burial wrap.


29 posted on 08/07/2008 10:52:22 AM PDT by curmudgeonII
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The art trail of the Shroud far pre-dates the CDing

http://www.shroudofturin4journalists.com/pantocrator.htm

not to mention the many other scientific modalities
that come down in favor of authenticity = from forensics, to plant biology, the weave and age of the linen, etc...

34 posted on 08/07/2008 12:06:06 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terribly agitated)
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New radio carbon tests are now to be carried out on the TS at Oxford.
This is not exactly true. The Oxford Lab is NOT going to do new tests on samples from the Shroud of Turin. They are going to do new tests on samples from other old linens that may have been exposed to fire. The test WILL NOT be definitive on the age of the Shroud of Turin as they do not even recognize the peer-reviewed discoveries of Ray N. Rogers that the sample taken for the 1988 C-14 tests was polluted by being interwoven with patching material from the 16th Century. The theory that Oxford will be testing is John Jackson's theory that fire can induce an exchange of newly radiated Carbon atoms with the old Carbon atoms that already exist in the molecules of the linen. To test this, they intend to expose samples of linen with a known age to fires from very modern woods and then date both the exposed sample and a control sample from the same material to see if the dating is skewed. I doubt it will.

The entire article is poorly researched and poorly written. It ignores the current state of the science on the Shroud which has already falsified the 1988 C-14 testing.

44 posted on 08/07/2008 6:57:52 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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You and I have never discussed this particular topic, but since you have a theological bent, I thought it might interest.


49 posted on 08/07/2008 7:26:10 PM PDT by Xenalyte (~ ~ FREE LAZAMATAZ! ~ ~)
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To: NYer

Interesting

Thanks for posting it.

I will admit that the Shroud is the only Catholic relic that has ever interested me.

Fake or not, it does cause one to wonder....


56 posted on 08/08/2008 5:53:40 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, "Am I good enough to be a Christian?" rather "Am I good enough not to be?")
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