Posted on 07/20/2008 9:36:13 PM PDT by Graybeard58
Mormons focus on accessible, social aspects of their religion. Although the Mormon system of doctrine is genuinely attractive to many of its members, many have argued that the primary "glue" of Mormonism is the heritage, culture, and family ties, not the doctrine and theology.
In other words, the typical allegiance to the Mormon organization primarily stems from something other than doctrinal concerns. The average Mormon sitting in a pew does not care how or why their religion works, they only care that it works for them.
They are not concerned with the real character of Joseph Smith or how the LDS scriptures coincide with biblical teachings. A common element often overlooked when Christians share their faith with Latter-day Saints is that many Mormons are not Mormon merely for doctrinal reasons. This view of not being concerned with theology is considered to be atheological. If a person does not care about their theology, they miss the importance of rooting their entire life in the true knowledge of God and a coherent, rational, theological worldview.
A person's relationship with God is built on the foundation of what one believes about God and what it means to be right with God. This is the most important determining factor in shaping the way a person lives.
An atheological person does not seriously reflect on their own foundational worldview assumptions (e.g., what is truth, who is God, does this matter?), nor do they see how doing so would be relevant to everyday life.
South Park, a fictional, satirical cartoon, depicted a Mormon named "Gary" with the following words:
"Look, maybe us Mormons do believe in crazy stories that make absolutely no sense. And maybe Joseph Smith did make it all up. But I have a great life and a great family and I have the Book of Mormon to thank for that. The truth is, I don’t care if Joseph Smith made it all up. Because what the church teaches now is loving your family, being nice and helping people. And even though people in this town might think that’s stupid, I still choose to believe in it."
Grey Echols, a Mormon, writes the following in a review of By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus:
"This is a well written book which manages to not push an 'anti-Mormon' agenda. However as an LDS I do not think others should read it. Why? Because it could destroy your faith in the church. I am not trying to be clever. If you enjoy all of the good things the church has brought into your life, do you care where it came from?
No other church has so short a history that it can be examined so closely by science. Otherwise we would find that they are all created on the backs of con-artist. I am willing to bet every religion was founded by a fraud. So who cares. Does religion bring us together? Does it bond a nation, a town, a family? If so then let it be.
The truth is fleeting, and life is short. If believing in Santa makes children smile then believing in God makes adults smile. When children find out Santa isn't real, you kill a certain spark you can never get back. When you expose a church as a fraud, you kill a little spark in all of us."
You’re fighting against true prophets of god...
Man...that’s not a place I’d want to be.
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The false prophet Joseph Smith is a “true prophet of god”
Which of the millions of mormon gods would that be ???
The latest in a long line of fat cat “mormon prophets” living high off the hog in Salt Lake City on the little people’s 10% tithe ????
Munson????
Grasshopper, Smith, Young, Munson and all the rest of those white washed sepulchres were not “true prophets of god”
Who feeds you all this garbage ???
True prophets you actually talk to God face to face like Moses did.
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I talk to God and He talks to me all the time...
Will I do ???
I prophecy to you that unless you repent and believe on the Jesus Christ of the Bible, you will be damned.
Mar 16:15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:15, 16
You contradict yourself again. You told me the word disappeared in the fourth Centry and now it is back to the day Christ died, according to your intreptation of Amos.
So which is it?
They did attend the same school actually. LDS folks are trained from the cradle to do this bit.
Actually I have done no such thing. But I understand.
LOL..
I just gave it to you, and you then obfuscate, like clockwork....
I am becoming almost amazed at how uniform the approach is for the LDS faithful...
Swift must have had you guys in mind...
Or maybe PT Barnum...
BTW you still have not answered my questions. Don’t worry, my expectations are low...
You asserted--wrongly, regarding Matthew 7:21-22-- “The Lord is describing Christians. People that had enough faith in Christ to prophesy and cast out devils. [They claimed to have done those things, but Jesus shortly exposes the fallacy you have missed, purposely, serving your cultish interpretation.] That's some pretty strong faith in Christ to have accomplished those tasks...I've never done those things.<br>
But yet...Christ says he never knew them and casts them out.” [So you see, mormon, Christ exposes your lie two thousand years before you try to assert it! They were not Christians! He said plainly that He never knew them! If He had known them, His Spirit, The Holy Spirit, would have been within their human spirit. Only those serving the spirit of antichrist try to promote such lies as you‘re spewing, denying The Power of The Holy Spirit.]<br>
“People that believed Jesus was their personal savior and had enough faith in Him to prophesy....are going to be cast off at the judgment.” [Mormon, people who tried to manipulate God‘s Power without having His Spirit within their human spirit are what the scripture is teaching YOU about. Salvation is ‘faithing‘ in His power to indwell and deliver the faither. Mormonism is about ‘after all that you can do, he owes you&'.
Then you turn around--referencing Matthew 7:18-20, which precedes the passage you tried to claim your own Mormonism interpretation of--and assert: “You will know who and what they really are by what they produce. Hate, meanness, contention, fear, etc are of the devil. [ You see, smiley, the failure to cast out the demons shows the absence of The Holy Spirit, thus the ones claiming Christ’s power lack the Power Thereof because they were not Christians. You don’t realize that your cult denies the power of the Gospel of God’s Grace in Christ Jesus IS the Holy Spirit Who has never left the Church Jesus established, every time you claim the peepstone, divination, lying adulterous false prophet ‘restored’ Christianity. ]
You even appear to realize you are deceiving, when you posted #141, where you used quote marks to differentiate Christian from claiming to be believers.
May God have mercy upon souls lost in this purposed confusion of Mormonism and guide them to be truthful with themselves.
God raises up righteous men for His purposes.
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Then we know for sure that God didnt raise up the lyin’, cheatin’, thievin’, murderous, adulterous, unrighteous false prophet Joseph Smith...
The apostles had this authority given to them physically by Jesus laying His hands on them and giving them the Priesthood.
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Source ???
Scripture from The Bible...
Mark 13:13 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
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The anti-Christians AKA mormons in these threads hate the Christians...
I’m sure that’s what you had in mind..
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
The relevant question is 'Who are those who didn't partake in the first resurrection, and was there a way to avoid being judged by their works?' The Gospel of God's Grace in Jesus The Christ IS the way the partakers in the first resurrection were in that membership. Satan wants folks to imagine they can be judged before the Throne 'after all that they can do' and escape the judgement of the damned.
My TrueProphet-O-Meter is not ringing...
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That’s cause it’s broken, Grasshopper...
But not to worry, kid....
Anyone who would think that Joseph Smith is a prophet of the God of the Bible doesnt rate any credibility...
Revelation 20:12 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
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Yippeee....
I’m in the Book of Life....
:)
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