The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[Dr. Eckleburg]

lol. I think I saw one of them at Target checking out garters and plumes and portable DVD players, so don't believe everything your read.

Maybe it was George Michael. He's coming back, I hear.

[1000 silverlings]

lol, not again

[1000 silverlings]

I actually had a client called Rosencrantz. I had a hard time taking him seriously.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Keep in mind, as well, that it is through Mary that Jesus took on human flesh. No Mary, no Jesus. There was no other woman waiting in the wings.

Really? How do you know that?

[netmilsmom]

>>According to the RCC catechsim, found at Vatican.va, all Scripture must be interpreted by the magisiterium, the bishops and the pope before being read and understood by members of the church. <<

I think someone has a bit of a problem linking from Vatican.va. It’s come up before.

[papertyger]

But then you have Mary’s Son taken from her at birth...

This is an inference on your part. The text says no such thing.

Now, while I believe Mary had offspring, the “offspring” in Revelations most certainly are not HER children.

Catholic teaching makes us all her children.

Of course, I don’t think even the Catholics believe that Mary was chased by a dragon, or was given wings to fly to the desert.

What part of "Mary is the woman of Revelation 12" are you not getting?

I reject the idea that you can take a passage of scripture, interpret parts of it as being factual history, while other parts within the same story are clearly imagery, not meant to be taken literally.

Too bad. The book of Daniel isn't going anywhere. You reject this at your own peril.

And believe me, everything I just said is in NO way getting into detail. The detailed analysis of Revelation 12 would take more knowledge than I possess, and more words than I could reasonably write in a day, or a week.

Unfortunately, you seem to think a detailed analysis is equal to an authoritative analysis.

They are not.

I can only point out to you the wisdom of Ronald Reagan: it's not that our liberal friends are ignorant, it just that they know so much that isn't so.

[OLD REGGIE]

? I thought she went up bodily into heaven

Legend has it that the tomb was empty on the third day. Isn't legend wonderful?

[1000 silverlings]

the 3rd day is a nice touch

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Where in Scripture are we taught to pray to Mary? To ask Mary for mediation?

On the contrary, Scripture tells us that Christ is the only mediator between God and men, and that God alone is the recipient of our prayers.

[papertyger]

And what if what you read in the Bible conflicts with the interpretation given by the magisterium?

How would that differ from what you say the Bible says?

[netmilsmom]

>>How would that differ from what you say the Bible says? <<

Spot on!

[OLD REGGIE]

And legend says it has always been empty.

How dare you say it is legend? See #467.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The prayer threads ask (pray means "ask") others to pray -- as Catholics ask Mary and the saints to pray.

Catholic prayer threads ask Mary and the saints to pray for them.

Bible-believing Christians ask for prayers to be sent to God alone.

Still wondering if you believe petitionary prayer has any effect.

Already answered.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Thanks. I’ll remember that.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Where in the Bible do we learn that Mary could or would or did “alter God’s divine plan?”

[netmilsmom]

>>Bible-believing Christians ask for prayers to be sent to God alone.<<

It’s too bad for you! You lose out. I got some pretty powerful people praying with me.

So, let’s say a Protestant’s child needed a heart transplant. He comes to FR and asks for our prayers. Should he accept mine because I ask St. Anastasia to pray with me?

[Judith Anne]

On the contrary, Scripture tells us that Christ is the only mediator between God and men, and that God alone is the recipient of our prayers.

I seem to recall that in Acts, there are descriptions of the apostles healing the sick; I guess all those people who came to them could have ignored the apostles and prayed all on their own and been healed. Too bad that they didn't have the scriptures to tell them that, and had to rely on the apostles to be their intermediaries....

[Uri’el-2012]

Do you consider following any of the Ten Words of G-d ?

Or do you just choose which commandments you will follow ?

Thus every man doing whatever is right in his own eyes;

b'shem Yah'shua

[papertyger]

Where are we taught in Scripture to lean on our own understanding?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

DR.E: Only Christ is perfect. And that is enough for me.

PAPERTYGER: If only Christ were enough for you, you'd be Catholic.

But a Catholic poster said for the umpteenth time that "no Mary, no Jesus."

So it would seem it's the Catholic who requires something other than the risen Christ.