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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)
Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: wagglebee; Philo-Junius; Petronski
NAU Matthew 12: 46 While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His mother
and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him.
47 Someone said to Him, "Behold, Your mother and Your brothers
are standing outside seeking to speak to You."
Matthew reports that he and the crowd thought that Yah'shua had a mother and brothers.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
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posted on
06/02/2008 5:01:13 PM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
To: Mad Dawg
Wow, if not, then I bet Ive been misunderstood right much. Well, you DO "worship" the Blessed Virgin Mary, statues, the Pope and your priest; so, you're wrong about a lot!
1,162
posted on
06/02/2008 5:03:46 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: OLD REGGIE
A Dr Huetter at Duke came in as a prof of either religion or theology and was methodist. Now he’s Catholic and a lay Dominican, and still a prof at Duke in the Religion Dept.
1,163
posted on
06/02/2008 5:05:29 PM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: Mad Dawg
BTW, here is a link to our Parish. We are very blessed and if you’re ever in MI, stop by.
http://www.saintcyrils.org/
We’ve even been mentioned on EWTN!
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posted on
06/02/2008 5:06:45 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
To: XeniaSt; Philo-Junius; Petronski
That’s all well and good, but where does Matthew say that Mary had other children? Also, if what you believe is true, why did Jesus violate the Law in entrusting His mother to John?
1,165
posted on
06/02/2008 5:08:18 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: OLD REGGIE
First, unless you are intent on deliberately insulting those Christian brothers you "love" you should make a special effort to capitalize a proper noun. In this case Protestant.So you'd agree that failure to capitalize Magisterium is an insult? ( I wouldn't, but then capitalizing is kind of hit or miss at my keyboard. )
Is there a use of Protestant that is NOT a proper noun, but still pertains to religion?
1,166
posted on
06/02/2008 5:08:18 PM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: XeniaSt
Matthew reports that he and the crowd thought that Jesus had a mother and brothers.That is a mistranslation into the Greek from the Aramaic Christ spoke.
1,167
posted on
06/02/2008 5:09:50 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: Philo-Junius
Additionally, the Liturgy of the Hours provides readings from every book of the Catholic Bible, along with selections from Church Fathers and Doctors of the Church, in a one-year cycle.
This is totally irrelevant to the point. Either show me where I was wrong or move on.
1,168
posted on
06/02/2008 5:10:30 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
To: Mad Dawg
Actually, protestant is NOT a proper noun. It refers to several/many/thousands of different groups.
1,169
posted on
06/02/2008 5:11:07 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
So do you believe, as you earlier stated, that "all matters of faith are dubious?"Since the poster that I was addressing with that remark seemed to understand my meaning I don't feel compelled to elaborate. Especially in light of your consistent propensity to disregard or ignore the facts as they are presented to you, which I had assumed was a result of a deep-seated maliciousness or need for attention, but it might be that I have just simply overestimated your abilities.
Or is this like saying "Mary is a co-redeemer but not really?"
I told you a few weeks ago what the catechism had to say on the subject of Mary. Obviously, you prefer other sources that support what you believe. This subject doesn't interest me.
To: XeniaSt
I don’t call my adopted sister anything but my sister. If people looked at her they would know that we are not blood related, she is African/American, but people still don’t say, “Your adopted sister wants to talk to you.” they call her my sister and she is.
My nephew has a half brother. No one says to him, “Hey, your dad and Half Brother are outside”, they say, “Your dad and brother are outside.”
What you have quoted proves nothing in the scheme of things.
1,171
posted on
06/02/2008 5:12:38 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
To: wagglebee
"Your insinuation was that the ONLY place a Catholic read the Bible was in Mass,..."
Untrue!
1,172
posted on
06/02/2008 5:12:56 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
To: wagglebee
I would have thought that debates over adelphoi, stepbrothers and anepsios were beaten to death by now.
A literal translation of the Greek text does not decisively dispose of the issue.
What remains is centuries-old tradition dating back to the first century set against the desire to bring the Blessed Virgin down a peg.
1,173
posted on
06/02/2008 5:13:59 PM PDT
by
Philo-Junius
(One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
To: OLD REGGIE
Then why did you bring it up? What difference does it make if the entire Bible is read in the Mass schedule or not if you know that Catholics read the Bible outside church just as Protestants do?
1,174
posted on
06/02/2008 5:15:59 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: OLD REGGIE
I don’t mean to imply you are wrong. Neither the Daily Missal nor the Liturgy of the Hours pretends to be a complete recapitulation of the entire Bible.
An educated, pious Catholic ought to own and study all three.
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posted on
06/02/2008 5:16:01 PM PDT
by
Philo-Junius
(One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
To: Mad Dawg
A Dr Huetter at Duke came in as a prof of either religion or theology and was methodist. Now hes Catholic and a lay Dominican, and still a prof at Duke in the Religion Dept.
Oh wow! Those Protestant Theologians are just flocking to the Catholic Church.
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posted on
06/02/2008 5:17:36 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
To: Petronski
XS>Matthew reports that he and the crowd thought that Jesus had a mother and brothers. That is a mistranslation into the Greek from the Aramaic Christ spoke.
Playing the old pagan fable of Aramaic. You are denying the plain fact that the Holy Spirit
breathed the Word in Koine Greek.
Grieve the Holy Spirit ?
b'SHEM Yah'shua
1,177
posted on
06/02/2008 5:17:37 PM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
To: Philo-Junius
You haven’t been here long enough, NOTHING is “beaten to death” around here. Protestants recycle FIVE basic anti-Catholic arguments (the Blessed Mother, Peter/Papacy, the Eucharist, Tradition and Purgatory) like clockwork.
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posted on
06/02/2008 5:18:43 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: XeniaSt; Petronski
You are denying the plain fact that the Holy Spirit breathed the Word in Koine Greek. It was a CONVERSATION that the Lord had with bystanders, the Holy Spirit WAS NOT talking.
1,179
posted on
06/02/2008 5:21:03 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
if what you believe is true, why did Jesus violate the Law in entrusting His mother to John?What is the Mitzvah ?
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posted on
06/02/2008 5:22:51 PM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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