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(Vanity) What do Unitarians and Unitarian Universalists believe in?
Cronos ^ | Today | Cronos

Posted on 05/23/2008 6:06:40 AM PDT by Cronos

Please treat this as a serious thread and not to poke fun at anyone. I've looked up many places about what unitarians do believe in and I'm completely confused. If there are any freepers out here who are part of this faith, to help me expand my knowledge, please could you share your beliefs?


TOPICS: Other Christian; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: unitarianism
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To: Cronos

It seems to be all-liberal clap trap.

No right/no wrong (except rules), no sin, anything goes.

I knew one once, very out-spoken, and this seems to sum it all up.

And they mock alot.


41 posted on 05/23/2008 7:29:23 AM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Come tiptoe through the tulips with me)
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To: Cronos

I was a member of the Unitarian Church in my late teens-early twenties. My specific reason for joining and attending services was to rebel against my mother -and family who were all strict Episcopalians.

The services and sermons were ...pleasant. The minister and congregants were...pleasant. It was all so damned pleasant that I finally walked away...apparently I needed a little more sin and redemption and a little less ...nothingness:)


42 posted on 05/23/2008 7:32:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Cronos

When asked which religion was the correct one by an island native, Homer Simpson quipped, “Well, not the Unitarians. If that’s the one true faith I’ll eat my hat!”


43 posted on 05/23/2008 7:39:01 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Graybeard58

Personally, I think each group should be limited to one closed thread per day.. they want to pray together and stuff, fine. But if you are posting endless tracts on the web, they should be open to debate like anything else. But, then again, I don’t think Joseph Smith looked into a hat and read gold plates with seer stones. I must be some kind of an idiot.


44 posted on 05/23/2008 7:39:55 AM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Graybeard58
You are coming off like a wannabe.

ROTFLOL! You are posting your own made up rules and I am the wannabe? Priceless!

45 posted on 05/23/2008 7:42:16 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Cronos

I drive by a big one here in Nashville quite a bit with big open glass meeting room. From the way it looks and the abundance of grizzled hairy felines in the parking lot.

I think they believe in the God of “Who let the tuna loose?”


46 posted on 05/23/2008 7:45:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama is for the Deliverance Was A Documentary crowd)
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To: FateAmenableToChange

excellent post....thanks


47 posted on 05/23/2008 7:46:57 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama is for the Deliverance Was A Documentary crowd)
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To: Between the Lines

ouch


48 posted on 05/23/2008 7:47:49 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama is for the Deliverance Was A Documentary crowd)
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To: Between the Lines
But that ain't the rules so appearantly you do think you make the rules.

You sure about that? Every LDS devotional - which have slightly less than absolutely diddly to do with anything news related - manages to stay on the News/Activism forum, while anything else religious seems to meander over to the Religion forum pretty quickly. And it's all because a couple of yahoos were going over the top in attacking Mormonism via the FLDS (which IS Mormon, btw, in fact the FLDS themselves would say that they are the true Mormons....). Suddenly ANY criticism of Mormonism, no matter how factual, documented, and Scriptural, suddenly became an excuse for the Mods to favour Mormonism with special posting rules (which, IIRC, the religion mod actually SAID he/she was going to do sometime a couple of weeks ago).

49 posted on 05/23/2008 7:48:31 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Cronos
2+2=4. Or Nine. Or a pleasant shade of mauve. Let me demonstrate in humor:

Q: How many Unitarians does it take to change a light bulb?

A: Two. One to write a solemn statement which will affirm that: This light bulb is natural, a part of the universe, and evolved over many years by small steps. We affirm the right of all bulbs to screw into the sockets of their choice regardless of the bulb's illumination preference. And we seek for each light bulb the fullest opportunity to develop itself to its full electrical potential. The second Unitarian's job is to read this statement, even if he or she is the only human being to do so, and then write the obligatory criticism and dissent.

Seriously, my chemistry professor intellectual Liberal brother wandered into this religion, draw in my his now ex-wife. She ran a series of unsuccessful home businesses that he paid for, including a faux breast you could fill with milk to make a baby THINK you were breast feeding (assuredly ONLY to be used if you were so old you couldn't produce milk yourself, because she was a MILITANT femnazi and La Leche member who would shame you into breast-feeding your baby, even if you didn't want to, probably by holding a gun to your head, except that she didn't "believe" in guns. As a sidelight, she also breast fed her daughter until she was six, and in my book, if you do that, it ain't the kid getting fed.)

I must assume she learned her moral beliefs in the church; however, the most recent career that my brother paid for her was when she became a lawyer. After he paid for her schooling and degree, after bringing home interesting tidbits about Tennessee divorce law, she turned out to have been setting him up for four years by telling him exactly what SHE wanted to tell him, to leave him in the weaker position when she left him...for the law professor she had studied under and interned with, leaving my brother with both their child and the one they adopted, which was only fair, I supposed, because he had always done all the housework, anyway. (Do I need to include that they were married in the 60's in a field of flowers by a Justice of the Peace?)

This, of course, is not a blanket denunciation of the entire Unitarian/Unity Church movement, but as a Christian, I don't see how you can praise Jesus as some kind of "great leader who taught us how to love" and then overlook the whole "I am the way, the truth and the life and no man comes to the Father except by me" thing, which seems to be a pretty on/off bianary claim by the Son of God. How is it possible to completely accept several belief systems at the same time, many of which claim to disagree with other belief systems?

50 posted on 05/23/2008 7:50:50 AM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: Cronos

Nothing. They believe in nothing. There is no UU creed of beliefs. You can be atheist and be a UU. Unitarianism has degraded into an organization that give’s you that “churchy vibe” on Sundays, without actually giving you any church.


51 posted on 05/23/2008 7:55:17 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: wardaddy

We went to my brother’s “church” when he got remarried, (praise God that happened!) What impressed me was that because of the plot of land they bought, which was long and fairly thin, the chuch was a block long and one room or so deep. Lined up along the side facing the parking log were symbols from every single human religion and philospophy. It looked very grand from that angle. It made me think of those old Western buildings, the ones that looked very grand and two stories from the front, but in reality were only one-story high. That’s right...my first thought was “this church is a facade!”


52 posted on 05/23/2008 7:59:12 AM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: Cronos

I went to a Unitarian Universalist funeral service a few years ago and found that they believe in NOTHING. How they can get tax exemption is beyond me. They believe in absolutely nothing . . . at least nothing that’s religious.

My buddy whose wife went there (he’s Catholic) said as far as he could see on his one visit, it was a gab fest to show how really intelligent they were, each trying to out-do each other in deep thoughts.

They do, however, believe in abortion, homosexual rights, socialism, and all the trendy anti-family and anti-social things. Kinda’ like scientology but without the Hollywood touch.

They felt that the deceased (for whom they were mourning at that service) was now nowhere . . . no afterlife . . . no immortal soul . . . and blah, blah, blah.


53 posted on 05/23/2008 8:00:52 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: FateAmenableToChange
The essence of UU lies in the proposition that everyone needs to seek the deity in his/her/its own way

Personally, I think that's a pretty good thing.

that everything (except being a Christian) is ok

Except for this bit, which throws everything else under the shadow of hypocrisy. If you're going to accept all faiths, then accept ALL faiths.

54 posted on 05/23/2008 8:01:51 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Cronos

I went to a UU church at times, as an elementary-school age kid. Not regularly, only on occasion. UU seems to be a popular “compromise” religion for mixed families with 1 Jewish parent and 1 Catholic or Protestant parent, who can’t decide how to raise the kids.

Can’t add much about their beliefs(or lack of) beyond whats already been said here. They have symbols from a lot of religions: Western (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) and Eastern (Yin Yang symbols, etc) in the santuary part of the church. The one I went to did have some kind of Christmas choir program (probably secular, can’t remember). The Sunday school is secular humanist stuff, and yes, UU is associated with liberal political causes. That’s about all I can remember, haven’t been in or near a UU place in 25 years now.


55 posted on 05/23/2008 8:04:38 AM PDT by Fish_Keeper
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To: antiRepublicrat
"that everything (except being a Christian) is ok"

Article numero uno of The ACLU articles of incorporation....???

56 posted on 05/23/2008 8:04:38 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Varda
There were dancing girls and a sermon about nothing.

It sounds like an episode of Seinfeld! :)

57 posted on 05/23/2008 8:07:17 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: Cronos

They are part of the democratic party with holydays.

They spend about the same amount of time preaching salvation as Obama’s church.


58 posted on 05/23/2008 8:08:23 AM PDT by fungoking
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To: G L Tirebiter

“A Christian sect for those who have no real interest in Christ.”

They officially abandoned any semblance of Christianity a long time ago. They’re officially post-Christian.


59 posted on 05/23/2008 8:10:05 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Between the Lines

“We are all confused about what UUs believe.”

It’s easy to be confused when there’s not religious belief at all.


60 posted on 05/23/2008 8:10:56 AM PDT by DesScorp
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