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Posted on 04/29/2008 8:33:39 PM PDT by sevenbak
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To: Enosh
That one is a little unfair. There are few Mormon criminals and Mormons are the nicest people you’ll meet. They are also well known for their patriotism and honesty. Early on, Las Vegas casinos hired Mormons to handle their money because of that reputation for honesty.
Nor do modern day Mormons practice or approve polygamy.
But the fact remains that the founder, “prophet”, and author of the Book of Mormon had 33 wives, including a 14 year old.
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posted on
04/30/2008 8:38:20 AM PDT
by
stinkerpot65
(Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
To: sevenbak
"Whats amazing is that I hear you guys slam Abraham, Jacob, ect. for being a adulterous cad instead of a chosen prophet of God." sevenbak
Prove that specious accusation, Mormon. Do you think you're helping the image of Mormons by lying so blatantly? You post a thread trying to associate the human goodness of some Mormons with you and your lying apologists. You are the disgrace, not these good people you've posted trying to have some of their goodness rub off. Disgusting apologetics for the heretical religion founded by a lying, adulterous peepstone divination false prophet ...
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posted on
04/30/2008 8:41:45 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: stinkerpot65
There are few Mormon criminals and Mormons are the nicest people youll meet. They are also well known for their patriotism and honesty. It looks like you too have fallen for the PR hype that surrounds Mormonism.
How do you account for Utah having the highest rate in the nation for white collar crime and fraud?. How do you account for the fact that Utah has one of the lowest rates of U.S. military enlistments?
Highest rate of depression - Utah?
Suicide - Utah?
Mormons are just people. They are just like any other people. They TRY to be better, but they fail, just like you and I.
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posted on
04/30/2008 8:47:10 AM PDT
by
colorcountry
(To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: stinkerpot65
"That one is a little unfair." I agree, every group has its bad apples and Mormons tend to be upstanding folks. Unfortunately, Mormonism itself is founded on the lies of one such bad apple: Joseph Smith.
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:07:13 AM PDT
by
Enosh
(†)
To: colorcountry; stinkerpot65
stinkerpot,
I am in the financial services industry and almost every single
get rich quick scheme I’ve seen in 20+ years comes from
Utah. Just keeping the traditions of Joseph Smith, who was
a treasure hunter, scam guy, and according to his mom, “would
tell the most fanciful stories”.
They do spend millions every year on PR though and many people
buy into the message. But it is what they don’t tell you
that you should pay attention to.
ampu
CC, can I get an amen...?
To: stinkerpot65; FastCoyote; colorcountry; Utah Binger; P-Marlowe
That one is a little unfair. There are few Mormon criminals and Mormons are the nicest people youll meet. They are also well known for their patriotism and honesty. Early on, Las Vegas casinos hired Mormons to handle their money because of that reputation for honesty. That is a propaganda lie foisted on the general public. I PERSONALLY have known mormons who were drunks, liars, swindlers, shop-lifters, check forgers, pyramid scammers, wife-beaters, adulterers,and pedophiles.
FC, there is something new on that criminal case in Vegas, is there not? Mormon involvement there, along with the criminal actions of Harry Reid belie your claim and illustrate the "stink".
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:14:19 AM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
To: aMorePerfectUnion
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:16:09 AM PDT
by
colorcountry
(To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: Appleby
Smith coerced his 14 year old ‘wife’ by telling her that she could be responsible for her entire family getting into heaven by becoming Smith’s wife. Such a ‘christian’ man don’tchaknow.
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:17:47 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: Enosh
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:18:52 AM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; FastCoyote; Elsie
Mormons are some of the finest confidence men I have ever known. And their obfuscation in conceptual selling is unparalleled in the annals of great salesmen. I should know as I made it a point to hire as many of their best and brightest to sell for me. Seems all the really good ones led two lives.
Just like me.
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:28:11 AM PDT
by
Utah Binger
(Southern Utah, where the world comes to see America!)
To: AppyPappy
Don't know if you've seen this chart (Elsie posted it on another thread) ... it's from a scholarly series of articles written by a man who has finally exposed the fraud at the heart of Smith's claims regarding 'reformed Egyptian'. If you wish to read the series I will ping you to the link given by Godzilla, yesterday:
![characters](http://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/2000s/charatr1.gif)
The column on the left is made up of
characters from the "Anthon transcript,
The column on the right contains
Tironian notes, the Latin shorthand
upon which early modern shorthand
was based.
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:30:42 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: Utah Binger
Mormon strategy reminds me of this thread.
Show a glitzy rendition of everything “good” in Mormonism, and don't tell any of the “bad” stuff.
If someone brings up the “bad” stuff, call them haters, bigots, and anti-mormons. Nothing, nothing (especially truth) must get in the way of propaganda!
Mormonism's motto might as well be "All your base are belong to us!"
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:38:59 AM PDT
by
colorcountry
(To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: MHGinTN
I learned a long time ago that Mormons and anti-Mormons are arguing just for the sake of arguing.
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:50:21 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: colorcountry; sevenbak; Utah Binger; P-Marlowe; Colofornian; MHGinTN; Zakeet; SENTINEL
Mormonism's motto might as well be "All your base are belong to us!" LOL!
Institutional "lyin' for the Lord" along with bred-to-the-bone "we are victims" lead to the kind of mind-set that led to this thread.
What I notice about seven's post is the COMPLETE LACK of scientists, poets, humanitarians, etc. I don't even see any reknowned authors of classics.
Where are the great thinkers? Who in the great Tabernacle Choir has gone on to operatic excellence? I've heard some good music by mormon composers, but where are the NON-LDS compositions being heard by the world? You'd expect a picture of a mormon Mozart, a mormon Pavarotti.
This list does nothing but emphasize the cultural emptiness produced by mormonism...the Osmonds!
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:55:05 AM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
To: sevenbak
Some Mormon women dance... Others don't...
![](http://www.usmagazine.com/files/marie_blog_2.jpg)
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:55:43 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: sevenbak
THe LDS church has millions of members worldwide, and this handful of perverts in Texas is as different as day from night.< P>I know you want to distance the lds from the FLDS, but really now!
The Flds are the ones who actually FOLLOW what D&C #132 says!
Ronald Reagan said, "I didn't leave the Democratic party; it left me."
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:57:52 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Saundra Duffy
If you are confused... just whose fault IS it?
TRUTH IGNORED
Smith, Young, Taylor, Pratt, Snow, Kimbal,l Woodruff ...
1 Timothy 3:2-3
2. Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
3. not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
1 Timothy 3:12
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
Titus 1:6
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.
BEHOLD!!!! The Restorative Power of the Book of Mormon!!
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
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posted on
04/30/2008 9:59:35 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Saundra Duffy
He was murdered by a mob of blood thirsty hateful bigots - no trial, no judge, no jury.He enraged a LOT of loving, truthful families by lusting after their daughters and wives.
He was LUCKY to have died quickly.
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posted on
04/30/2008 10:01:33 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: greyfoxx39; P-Marlowe; Utah Binger; SENTINEL; Degaston
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posted on
04/30/2008 10:01:38 AM PDT
by
colorcountry
(To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: sevenbak
The FLDS don't practice orthodox Mormonism, their "fundamentalism" is pure evil and is far removed from the principles taught by the founders of the Mormon faith. There you go again: trying to tell us what we believe.
Why don't you wimpy SLCLDSer's just GO away and let us worship GOD the way we want?
--FundyMormonDude(At LEAST we FOLLOW D&C#132!!)
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posted on
04/30/2008 10:03:41 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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