[restornu]

Speak for yourself,

Most of those who leave the Church it is because of life styles, the pleasure of the world to drink, or to have sex out of marriage, even SS, and so when they leave to justify themselves they spin the truth and should one point out their behavior that is not faairrrr, oh sure!

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NOT going and telling the Gospel and the Truth would be to defy Christ’s commands.

Jesus also said dust your feet off with those who kick against the Church!

[nicmarlo]

Most of those who leave the Church it is because of life styles, the pleasure of the world to drink, or to have sex out of marriage, even SS, and so when they leave to justify themselves they spin the truth and should one point out their behavior that is not faairrrr, oh sure!

Of which church do you speak?

Concerning the "church," Scriptures state that the "church" is the body of believers, not a building or organization.

Please cite the sources upon which you rely to state that "most of those who leave" do so "because of life styles, the pleasure of the world to drink, or to have sex out of marriage, even SS (what is that?)"

"They spin the truth." Of what "truth" do you claim they "spin"?

Of which "behavior" do you claim is "not faairrrr" and upon what basis do you make that claim?

Jesus also said dust your feet off with those who kick against the Church!

Please cite the Scriptures wherein it states that Jesus said to "dust your feet off with those who kick against the Church."

[Utah Binger]

[greyfoxx39]

Most of those who leave the Church it is because of life styles, the pleasure of the world to drink, or to have sex out of marriage, even SS, and so when they leave to justify themselves they spin the truth and should one point out their behavior that is not faairrrr, oh sure!

You would really LIKE for that to be true...it is not. Some of us are simply intelligent enough to be able to see the truth when we study and pray.

Jesus also said dust your feet off with those who kick against the Church!

Jesus didn't say to attribute motives to others and he WASN'T talking about the mormon church, he was talking about GOD'S church.

[nicmarlo]

p.s. What did you mean by "Speak for yourself"?

[colorcountry]

Oh my, resty!

You just exposed quite a bit of the way your mind works, didn’t you?

[Tennessee Nana]

Jesus also said dust your feet off with those who kick against the Church!
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No Jesus never said that...

He didnt mention any church

Jesus was talking about those of us who preach His Gospel

“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words: when ye depart out of that house or city shake off the dust from your feet” Matthew 10:14

“and as many as may not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them” Mark 6:11

“and whomsoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them” Luke 9:5

[pby]

Jesus also said dust your feet off with those who kick against the Church!

"kick against the Church"?

Where exactly is this reference, restornu (is this a biblical reference, or a fraudulent seeing stone reference, or a wishful thinking reference)?

Oh...and by the way, Jesus did answer Pilate the first time but not the second time (after Pilate rejected the Truth by asking, "What is truth?"). Jesus is GOd and was under no perogative to answer Pilate, which Jesus explains later in the referenced passage.

Your reference to Pilate's conversation with Jesus, as it relates to this thread and my asking what salvation is and how one obtains it, is like equating appples with a.... pepsi can.

[Elsie]

Most of those who leave the Church it is because of life styles, the pleasure of the world to drink, or to have sex out of marriage...

SOMEone is JUDGING (or listening in on Talks with the Stake President!)

[Elsie]

 

... or to have sex out of marriage...

 

These guys found a way to do it withIN marrage!!!!

 

     

                          Smith                                                                        Young                                                                         Taylor                                                            Pratt

 

 

   

                      Snow                                                           Kimball                                    Woodruff

 

 

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 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

 

 

1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.

 

 

 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.

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It's just sad that they paid NO attention to the BIBLE or to the Restorative power  of the Book of Mormon!

 

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THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI

CHAPTER 2

 

  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.

 

 

[bonfire]

Is there a problem here?

History of the Church, vol. 6, pg. 111, “Section 1 - Be it ordained by the City Council of Nauvoo, that the Mayor [Joseph Smith] of the city is hereby authorized to sell or give spirits of any quantity as he in his wisdom shall judge to be for the health and comfort, or convenience of such travelers or other persons as shall visit his house from time to time.”