FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"

KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

[Elsie]

Whatever!

[Elsie]

So during the Final Judgment that's described in Revelations concerning those who are "dead," is that not speaking to non-believers who were dead and whose names, therefore, were not found in the Book of Life?

I've heard this concept in church for a long time; but I cannot find it Scripturally.

Revelation 20:12-15 seems pretty clear: the DEAD is all inclusive. THEY gets judged by what's in BOOKS.

Any NOT in the BoL are out of luck.

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KJV Matthew 25:14-35
14.  For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
 15.  And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey.
 16.  Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents.
 17.  And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two.
 18.  But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money.
 19.  After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them.
 20.  And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more.
 21.  His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
 22.  He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them.
 23.  His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
 24.  Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
 25.  And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
 26.  His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
 27.  Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
 28.  Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
 29.  For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
 30.  And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 31.  When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
 32.  And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
 33.  And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
 34.  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

 

 

[Tennessee Nana]

Good morning Elsie

:)

[nicmarlo]

I agree.

[nicmarlo]

the DEAD is all inclusive.

That appears to be correct. MHG's post was informative, as well. Thanks for your post, Elsie. My only disagreement with your statement concerns the "'judgment' of believers" part. MHG has stated that part of it the way my understanding of the Scriptures read. If you disagree, I think that would be potential for a great thread for discussing Scriptures and could be beneficial and enlightening. In either event, we all agree on what is most important: if someone's name is not in the Book of Life, they will not enter heaven, which is only through belief in Christ Jesus and accepting Him as Savior. : )

[greccogirl]

Apparently the church doesn’t agree.

[greccogirl]

I don’t have to go to those sites. I have a family member who was in the Mormon church for 17 years - he was a Mechelzdik Priest. I know all the about the church - and I also know that many, many members of that church do not tell the truth when you point about what the church stands for. Since he has left the church and preaches against the church you would not believe what he has had to endure from the church.

[pby]

What happens to you if you don't believe In Christ and accept His atonement?

How do you accept His atonement...What is involved with that?

[pby]

Sorry to hear of your loss, yorkie.

Even though I will see my Dad on the other side of Glory, his life's end, on this earth, is not a day I want to have to go through.

[pby]

Those are not Mormons, bozo.

bozo?

Isn't that a personal attack?

[Old Student]

“One of many; but it’s the elephant in the room.”

Ah. Yes, it is. It was also a critical factor in my not voting for Romney. Some might consider that flip-flopping on my part, I suppose, since I was also pro-choice (or pro-murder, if you prefer) at one time. My mom was 15 when I was born, turned 16 the next month, and had a very hard life because of it. When I was much younger, I thought she should have had me aborted. When she was dying of cancer a few years ago, we got to spend much time talking together, and she maintained that abortion had never been an option to her, although it was offered. She said that being our mother (I also have a couple of other brothers) was the best part of her life, and that it made all the rest worth while. Now that I have children of my own, I understand her completely on that subject. My oldest is 16, now, and my conversion on the subject of abortion was made several years before his birth, after another of a string of miscarriages my wife suffered before his birth.

[greyfoxx39]

Isn't that a personal attack?

The Moderator caught it

[greccogirl]

actually should have said “exaltation.” “Salvation” in the sense of resurrection is available to all, but it involves a lot of explanation. In order to gain all the blessings which are available in the Celestial Kingdom, we must have been married in the temple. We will be judged on how we treat our spouses. We expect to be together after this life.

Ah yes. Back to the celestial marriage and the benefits of becoming ‘GODS’ when we die with worlds to rule.

[greccogirl]

Actually, no it isn’t, because the doctrine and histories and teachings of LDS support these groups.

[pby]

Good post, Godzilla.

[greccogirl]

I am a christian, and belong to no particular denomination. I go by the salvation of the Bible that doesn’t mention Joseph Smith anywhere.

[yorkie]

"What happens to you if you don't believe In Christ and accept His atonement?"

I don't think any person has the right or knowledge to answer that.

The Bible is very clear about it. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

If a person choses to not accept Christ, though, I believe it is then up to God to make the final decision. Not us.

[pby]

I can't even imagine!

I am so sorry for your loss, andysandmikesmom.

[pby]

Are you a Mormon, yorkie.

(and just between you and me...the Bible clearly states what happens to people that reject Jesus Christ as Savior).

[Tennessee Nana]

“What happens to you if you don’t believe In Christ and accept His atonement?”

I don’t think any person has the right or knowledge to answer that.

The Bible is very clear about it. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

If a person choses to not accept Christ, though, I believe it is then up to God to make the final decision. Not us.
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Yorkie, Jesus gave us the answer to pby’s question...

And Jesus was very clear when He said..

“..but he that believeth not SHALL BE DAMNED”..Mark 16:16