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FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"
KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet

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To: Old Mountain man
Apples and oranges, OMm...

You have already, repeatedly destroyed your credibility. You would have a tough time getting anyone to give you credence on that one (because of your history and because of Billy Graham's).

And...Are you declaring that this cited Mormon historian is inaccurate on the issue of Joseph Smith consumating his in time marriage to Helen Mar Kimball? As you would say...prove it!

And..I am glad that you brought Billy Graham up in regard to this issue...because the contrast between Billy Graham and Joseph Smith in the context of sexual purity and fidelity in marriage IS SO ABSOLUTELY CLEAR!!!!!!

While Billy Graham wouldn't even be alone with another woman in an elevator, or in a room, or in any other situation...Joseph Smith was secretly, from the public and his wife (Emma), marrying and bedding other women!

Billy Graham's life of sexual purity, honesty and humility speaks volumes against anyone bringing such charges against him (and no one would believe it).

Joseph Smith on the other hand...He is a confirmed debaucherer (and almost everyone would believe it)! What kind of spouse would you want OMm...the Billy Graham kind or the Joseph Smith kind?

2,001 posted on 03/03/2008 9:10:44 AM PST by pby
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To: Old Mountain man
Then, who's head was the marriage in?

It is your posted reference, OMm.

2,002 posted on 03/03/2008 9:12:36 AM PST by pby
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To: pby
And then, OMm posted an inference that the marriage was just contrived by an anti-mormon author's imagination.I responded that restornu, and even Mormon historians, confirmed that this marriage was a historical reality. I asked OMm to confirm that he was alleging that this marriage never really took place...and, as in several other cases, OMm did not respond. OMm, then, switched positions and asked that I prove that consumation took place. When I posted a Mormon historian's confirmation that it did take place...OMm went silent on the subject, again. Each of these ineffective Mormon defenses will, unfortunately, be used again...around and around they go.

Of course.

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2,003 posted on 03/03/2008 9:14:23 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Old Mountain man; pby
You are bloviating and misstating my positions again.

Again, spoken by a true experienced expert in the field.:)

2,004 posted on 03/03/2008 9:17:17 AM PST by Godzilla (Have you laughed at a liberal today?)
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To: Old Mountain man
You are bloviating and misstating my positions again. Get it right, for a change.

Well, then...I will stop posting facts and respond as you do...

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

ROFL!!!!!!!!!

2,005 posted on 03/03/2008 9:19:05 AM PST by pby
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To: pby

Joseph Smith on the other hand...He is a confirmed debaucherer
______________________________

now there’s a good word to describe Joseph Smith...


2,006 posted on 03/03/2008 9:21:16 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Godzilla

Link from that site led to  H. Michael Marquardt and further info:

H. MICHAEL MARQUARDT is an independent historian and a longtime research consultant of the Latter-day Saints (Mormons). He has been publishing on Mormonism for more than thirty years. He is the author of The Rise of Mormonism: 1816-1844 and The Joseph Smith Revelations: Text and Commentary..from an editorial review on Amazon.com

http://www.xmission.com/~research/about/books2.htm

In my earlier booklet The Book of Abraham Papyrus Found, published in October 1975, it was shown that Joseph Smith did not correctly represent the Book of Abraham text as to what was written on the Hor Sensen Papyrus. It was also shown that Joseph Smith did not understand the ancient Egyptian language when working on the Book of Abraham. These Egyptian Papers are issued in this present publication to reinforce the knowledge that Joseph Smith knew nothing on how to correctly render the papyrus characters into the English language. Students of the Book of Abraham problem should be aware that this is one of the great values to having the Joseph Smith Egyptian Papers published.

The manuscripts included in this compilation were written in English but were based upon the Egyptian papyri which were in the possession of Joseph Smith. The numbering of the manuscripts and the handwriting identification was derived from the list published in the LDS Church publication BYU Studies Vol. 11, No, 4, page 351. These documents were first published by Modern Microfilm Company of Salt Lake City, Utah in April 1966. While at that time these manuscripts had not been numbered and labeled, it is nevertheless a fact that the manuscripts do represent Joseph Smith's dictation to his scribes and also his own handwriting which appears on part of Egyptian Manuscript No.4.

More on Marquardt's papers here: Link

Apologies if you have already posted this info...


2,007 posted on 03/03/2008 9:21:23 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: pby

Babbling denied.


2,008 posted on 03/03/2008 9:21:49 AM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: pby

Your babblings denied.


2,009 posted on 03/03/2008 9:22:44 AM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: SkyPilot

Your babblings denied.


2,010 posted on 03/03/2008 9:23:24 AM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Godzilla

Your babblings denied.


2,011 posted on 03/03/2008 9:23:47 AM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: pby

Your babblings denied.


2,012 posted on 03/03/2008 9:24:19 AM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: pby; Old Mountain man; Elsie
While Billy Graham wouldn't even be alone with another woman in an elevator, or in a room, or in any other situation...Joseph Smith was secretly, from the public and his wife (Emma), marrying and bedding other women! Billy Graham's life of sexual purity, honesty and humility speaks volumes against anyone bringing such charges against him (and no one would believe it).

It doesn't matter to OMm.

The Rev. Billy Graham, a spiritual leader to 10 Presidents, and one of the greatest men of the last Century, is an "apostate" to OMm (I am using OMn's own words).

Everything you posted pby about Rev. Graham not even permitting himself to be alone in a room with another woman has been documented and verified by countless witnesses, but it doesn't matter to Mormons.

You see - the sins and sexual immorality of Joseph Smith cannot be covered up, so Christians must be smeared and degraded in order to distract the facts.

2,013 posted on 03/03/2008 9:24:28 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Old Mountain man

Rolling on the floor, laughing outloud ... it’s not just for OMm anymore! Bwahahahahahaha


2,014 posted on 03/03/2008 9:24:35 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Your babblings denied.


2,015 posted on 03/03/2008 9:24:51 AM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: SkyPilot
Nice name tag, SkyPilot.

Everytime OMm posts, you should respond with that name tag.

2,016 posted on 03/03/2008 9:25:12 AM PST by pby
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To: MHGinTN

Your babblings denied.


2,017 posted on 03/03/2008 9:25:44 AM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: SkyPilot

Your babblings and hero worship denied.


2,018 posted on 03/03/2008 9:26:24 AM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: MHGinTN; pby; Godzilla; Tennessee Nana; SkyPilot
Rolling on the floor, laughing outloud ...

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2,019 posted on 03/03/2008 9:27:38 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: SkyPilot; Old Mountain man
It doesn't matter to OMm.

Apparently, not!

And...neither does the truth.

2,020 posted on 03/03/2008 9:29:55 AM PST by pby
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