Posted on 11/28/2007 3:13:53 PM PST by Pyro7480
Monsignor Andrea Giusto is the Diocesan Administrator of the Diocese of Savona Noli (a suffragan of Genova, in the region of Liguria), while the see is vacant. He has settled the "problem" created by the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum in his diocese: all Masses are henceforth forbidden, as this communiqué in the official website of the Diocese makes clear (link/PDF)
Don Giusto: "Stop to the Masses of Saint Pius V"Published Monday, November 26, 2007
Stop, until further rules, to Masses celebrated according to the rite of Saint Pius V. After recent episodes which took place in the oratory of Saint Michael, at Celle Ligure, the diocesan administrator, Monsignor Andrea Giusto, takes a stand: "In the absence of the bishop - he affirms - and not being still sufficiently clarified the conditions which would render licit the celebration according to the Missal of Saint Pius V, I firmly ask the priests of the diocese not to give permission to groups that ask for the celebration and to make sure that in no church in the diocesan territory Masses according to the pre-Conciliar rite are celebrated."
[Rorate note: the first paragraph is then repeated]
"The conditions for this kind of celebration - explains Savonese liturgist Andrea Grillo - are the presence of a stably constituted group and their active participation in the rite. This means that a solid liturgical formation and a kowledge of the Latin language are needed, and that these Masses cannot be organized 'by invitation', almost as if they were a show or a private event."
The decision of the diocesan administrator will have as its consequence that, until new rules which will depend on the future Bishop, Masses according to the ritual of Saint Pius V may not be celebrated in Celle or elsewhere [in the Diocese].
So what were the "episodes" in Celle Ligure that moved the Diocesan Administrator to issue his (absolutely illegal) edict? A simple Traditional Mass - seemingly, with no scandal involved.
Il Giornale (regional section Liguria Cronaca) reported yesterday:
...at Celle Ligure, in the Parish of Saint Michael the Archangel, the first Mass in the ancient rite in the diocese of Savona took place. A celebration followed by 150-200 faithful, but criticized by the parish priest....[T]he Latin Mass [in Celle] was organized in the oratory neighboring the church of the Genoese "Una Voce" Association. The parish priest, don Piero Giacosa, was not opposed to the celebration, which he now criticizes harshly, however. "Why did I authorize it? I told the organizers that the matter did not interest me - he explains - I thought it was enough to dissuade them."
The Mass nonetheless took place, with the readings in Latin, the priest (an Italian-Brazilian from Verona) who turned his back to the assembly, and a homily in Italian. "I fear that Italy, the garden of the Catholic Church, may become the garden of pagans, of Muslims. - the celebrant said - Benedict XVI has liberalized this rite to make us remember that Mass is not a theater, but a place for prayer." Those who were present appreciated "the return to the past, to serious things". Gianno Romollotti says: "I saw people of a certain age, moved. There were also young men, new faces. It was not hard to follow the Mass, in the booklet there was an Italian translation. The criticisms? It is jealousy, we will repeat it on December 8."
If the Curia allows. "The stop is fair - don Giacosa replies - The Latin Mass was a concession by the Pope, it is supposed to unite, it cannot become a way to do proselytisms or to please the nostalgics, mostly [from] outside the Parish."
Catholic ping!
Not really. Just appoint a conservative Bishop.
I must be really naive, because I keep being ASTOUNDED by the treachery of Bishops who oppose the Pope.
They are just so frightened of that Mass!!!
Welp, I don’t think he will be named the bishop.
Welp, I don’t think he will be named the bishop.
Seems like a self-correcting problem, if enough parishioners decide they like the Latin mass
NOW!
Benedict is in a position to nip the protests and foot-dragging in the bud. By dealing swiftly, decisively and - to be blunt about it - harshly with this functionally illiterate individual (the MP couldn't be clearer or more concise in the wording for its implementation), he will send the message that he is not about to "blink first" in the struggle for a return to liturgical orthodoxy. He should have this guy ordered to Rome and reassigned to digging ditches with the Sampietrini, and make it clear that any further episcopal resistance to the MP will result in similar treatment for all comers!
Seriously, though, an example needs to be set right now, at the beginning of the MP's implementation. The recent popes have set the stage for this type of resistance with a very lax attitude about discipline. Benedict has shown clear signs that he is not as naive about such matters as JP II was, but he needs to follow through, especially in matters that pertain to the implementation of his own direct decisions. The future of the TLM and a general swing toward orthodoxy and orthopraxis depends on Benedict's firm resolve to not "go wobbly" in clear cases of defiance like this one. Let this guy in Genoa see just why many, derisively or otherwise, call Benedict "God's Rottweiler"!
A serious problem, but it came out of the weird VatII "collegiality" doctrine. The popes were lax, but I'm not sure it was so much out of personal cowardice as out of a desire to conform themselves to this council (which was merely a pastoral council and did not/could not even issue anything binding).
**Monsignor Andrea Giusto **
I guess he has not internalized the concept of obedience to the Holy Father.
(In other words, he’s in deep trouble!)
Really? The REAL concern is of course those traditionalist renegades outside the Church, we don't worry about the progressive renegades in the Sanctuary nearly as much...
The miscreant cited in this article is not a bishop ... and likely never will be.
Just because the mass is in Latin doesn't mean that the priest must turn his back to the congregation. They can modify that part of the ritual, and he can face the congregation. I don't know that I'd like to look at the priest's back for an hour.
it cannot become a way to do proselytisms or to please the nostalgics
The nostalgics!
“I must be really naive, because I keep being ASTOUNDED by the treachery of Bishops who oppose the Pope.
Really? The REAL concern is of course those traditionalist renegades outside the Church, we don’t worry about the progressive renegades in the Sanctuary nearly as much...”
Castle Mentality?
Harder to dislodge those that hold the Sanctuary then barring the doors against the invaders. But eventually the modernist defensive walls will be breached, if they haven’t already. You would think as close to home base as these Italian Bishops are, they would tread more softly. But they seem to be the most vocal and venomous towards the MP.
Actually you probably wouldn’t even notice the priest when his back is to you, since he is no longer the face of the show.
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2007/11/from-another-entry-during-the-roman-canon-i-felt-intense-loneliness/
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Sheesh.
OK, Diocesan Administrator. Hope he gets a job of picking lint off of chasubles.
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