Click Video- Learn how DNA was able to sort out and match the DDS fragments
Posted on 09/15/2007 11:47:41 AM PDT by restornu
Click Video- Learn how DNA was able to sort out and match the DDS fragments
Religion and academics are frequently parlayed into evil by the Adversary and his minions. (just ask, then observe any freemason)
Agreed.
I read years ago on some fringe website that the pyramids were built so that the writings of Enoch could be protected from the great flood. They are supposedly in a sealed upper room but nobody will give the archaeologist who proposed this idea permission to remove the necessary stones to gain access to the chamber.
I'm not saying that I believe this theory but I do feel that the day will come when the Lord will clear the way for the lost works of Enoch as well as other ancient writings to come to light. There is already many interesting things going on in this regard. Are you familiar with the work of Margaret Barker?
Which bibles? There were included in the earliest versions, and are still included in many non-protestant versions, all for very good reasons.
And frankly, if Jude, the brother of Jesus thought the prophesies of Enoch were worth mentioning in the New Testament, then we should be careful before discounting his words because men several hundred years removed from Christ, thought they didn't conform to their "accepted" doctrines. There are many books taken from the original scriptures that are indeed mentioned in the scriptures themselves. We've been down that road before, but I think I'll post those following this one.
And, since you are blasting my search too, let me really give you something to blast at and pick apart.. This is a more thorough search:
Num. 16: 22 (Num. 27: 16) God of the spirits of all flesh.
Job 38: 7 all the sons of God shouted for joy.
Eccl. 12: 7 the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Jer. 1: 5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee.
Zech. 12: 1 Lord . . . formeth the spirit of man within him.
John 9: 2 who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind.
Acts 17: 28 poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Rom. 8: 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate.
Eph. 1: 4 chosen us in him before the foundation of the world.
Heb. 12: 9 subjection unto the Father of spirits.
Jude 1: 6 angels which kept not their first estate.
Rev. 12: 7 Michael and his angels fought against the dragon.
Isa. 14: 13 exalt my throne above the stars of God.
Luke 10: 18 I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Rev. 12: 7 war in heaven.
Acts 2: 23 delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge.
Acts 17: 26 determined the times before appointed.
Rom. 8: 29 he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image.
Rom. 9: 11 purpose of God according to election.
Rom. 11: 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.
Gal. 3: 8 foreseeing that God would justify the heathen.
Eph. 1: 4 he hath chosen us in him before the foundation.
Eph. 1: 5 having predestinated us unto the adoption of children.
2 Thes. 2: 13 God hath from the beginning chosen you.
2 Tim. 1: 9 called us . . . before the world began.
1 Pet. 1: 2 elect according to the foreknowledge of God.
1 Pet. 1: 20 who verily was foreordained before the foundation.
Rev. 13: 8 Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Num. 16: 22 God of the spirits of all flesh.
Deut. 14: 1 Ye are the children of the Lord your God.
Job 32: 8 there is a spirit in man.
Job 33: 4 breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
Ps. 82: 6 Ye are gods . . . children of the most High.
Eccl. 12: 7 the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Isa. 42: 5 he that giveth breath . . . and spirit to them that walk.
Hosea 1: 10 Ye are the sons of the living God.
Mal. 2: 10 Have we not all one father.
Matt. 5: 48 (3 Ne. 12: 40) Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father.
Matt. 6: 9 (3 Ne. 13: 9) Our Father which art in heaven.
Acts 17: 29 we are the offspring of God.
Rom. 8: 16 Spirit itself beareth witness . . . we are the children of God.
Eph. 4: 6 One God and Father of all.
Heb. 12: 9 be in subjection unto the Father of spirits.
Gen. 2: 5 (Abr. 5: 5) every plant of the field before it was in the earth.
Ps. 82: 6 (Rom. 8: 16) you are children of the most High.
Eccl. 12: 7 spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Isa. 42: 5 he that giveth . . . spirit to them that walk therein.
Hosea 1: 10 Ye are the sons of the living God.
Zech. 12: 1 formeth the spirit of man within him.
Acts 17: 29 we are the offspring of God.
Heb. 12: 9 in subjection unto the Father of spirits.
The so-called lost books of the Bible are those documents that are mentioned in the Bible in such a way that it is evident they are considered authentic and valuable, but that are not found in the Bible today. Sometimes called missing scripture, they consist of at least the following:
book of the Wars of the Lord (Num. 21: 14); book of Jasher (Josh. 10: 13; 2 Sam. 1: 18); book of the acts of Solomon (1 Kgs. 11: 41); book of Samuel the seer (1 Chr. 29: 29); book of Gad the seer (1 Chr. 29: 29); book of Nathan the prophet (1 Chr. 29: 29; 2 Chr. 9: 29); prophecy of Ahijah (2 Chr. 9: 29); visions of Iddo the seer (2 Chr. 9: 29; 2 Chr. 12: 15; 2 Chr. 13: 22); book of Shemaiah (2 Chr. 12: 15); book of Jehu (2 Chr. 20: 34); sayings of the seers (2 Chr. 33: 19); an epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, earlier than our present 1 Corinthians (1 Cor. 5: 9); possibly an earlier epistle to the Ephesians (Eph. 3: 3); an epistle to the Church at Laodicea (Col. 4: 16); and some prophecies of Enoch, known to Jude (Jude 1: 14).
To these rather clear references to inspired writings other than our current Bible may be added another list that has allusions to writings that may or may not be contained within our present text, but may perhaps be known by a different title; for example, the book of the covenant (Ex. 24: 7), which may or may not be included in the current book of Exodus; the manner of the kingdom, written by Samuel (1 Sam. 10: 25); the rest of the acts of Uzziah written by Isaiah (2 Chr. 26: 22).
The foregoing items attest to the fact that our present Bible does not contain all of the word of the Lord that he gave to his people in former times, and remind us that the Bible, in its present form, is rather incomplete.
LOL! Indeed!
Firstly, the number of difference manuscripts represented is nearly one thousand. This was an entire library, unless the Essenes made a ton of mistakes. ;-)
Second, These are not like other libraries that have been found, because these were buried for the purpose of being found in the later times. They have been preserved. Ironically, the mistakes you mention, are the opposite of why these were buried, at least IMO. Just as surely as you copy a document, you will make mistakes; and just as surely as the next person comes along and copies your mistakes, he will try to correct them; and just as surely as he tries to correct them, he will make new mistakes. The next person will come along and try to correct him, and before you know it, the document is a mass of corruption, whether deliberate or not. But no document can ever escape these basic distortions and corruptions, except if buried to come forth in its purity at a later time.
And so the DSS, we find a library buried and sealed in jars. The DSS were first written on nice, newly prepared leather, then rolled up and wrapped carefully, and covered with linen; then the linen was covered with pitch, Then they were put in specially made cylindrical jars, sealed with lead and pitch on top with caps that fit on tightly. Then they were arranged neatly in a cave and covered with nice, dry sand so there would be no corruption; everything was hermetically sealed. Then the cave was cemented up so you couldn't see a thing; you're not coming back next week to get them. That's not merely a guess, because the documents themselves tell us why they were buried in this way and what the owners had in mind.
Oh, I forgot to add that the same year the DDS’s were discovered, Nag Hammadi, the earliest Christian library was discovered that same year, under much the same circumstances, but a thousand miles away from the Dead Sea Scrolls;
Surely the Lord is merciful to us in these last says.
BTW, read my tagline.
Um, I'm pretty sure this is standard doctrine of most Christian Churches, that Jesus Christ is Jehovah of the Old Testament. He is God, and according to the trinity doctrine, isn't this what you believe as well?
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Compare with this, from the Book of Mormon: 2 Nephi 31: 21
And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the away; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen.
and another...
3 Nephi 11:27 And after this manner shall ye baptize in my name; for behold, verily I say unto you, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one; and I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one.
They are one, our own scripture speak of this. The question is, what does “ONE” mean?
That also is answered both in the NT and the D&C:
John 17: 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
D&C 35: 2 I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was crucified for the sins of the world, even as many as will believe on my name, that they may become the sons of God, even one in me as I am one in the Father, as the Father is one in me, that we may be one.
Try not to do that, k?
But to be fair, there are a few surviving accounts in gnostic and early church fathers writings about the ancient temple rites. Because they do exist, someone at least wrote them down, but not to be shared with the general public.
Good point. When millions of others have done so and received confirmation of the truth, there is obviously something to it, isn’t there? But why as you say, are thousands of others not given such confirmation?
Don’t forget that the James reference I posted earlier is the key. We can’t simply ask, there are things we must to. (Yes, I know it’s shocking, but it’s called works!! - Scandalous!)
Let’s look again at what both James and Moroni say:
James 1:
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
Moroni 10:
4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.
5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.
True faith is the key, it always has been, that's how the Lord works. Without faith, nothing is accomplished. Reading the book of Mormon with a scoff in your heart is not showing any faith at all, and not living the commandments because one doesn't believe in "works" is not putting forth the effort required to receive the right answers. I will close with these words from the Savior:
John 7: 17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
So? ... So, you are telling me you really can't see why Enoch should be a valid reference?
If you were living in the days of Jude, would you tell him the same thing?
Well, when you do know, lets chat.
And, yes, it is Jospeh's stick, but it's in Ephram's hand. (Joseph's progeny) 19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
They are indeed one in the Lord's hand. The bible, given to us from the tribe of Judah testifies of the divinity of Jesus Christ, and the Book of Mormon from the tribe of Joseph, is a second witness of Jesus Christ. Cheers
Many years after the time of the Apostles, there was a translation of the OT from ancient Hebrew to koine Greek made by a group of Jews. During this translation they edited a letter here, a word there, to carefully eliminate Jesus as Messiah. We know this because of certain passages such as the one where James quotes Amos (Acts 15:14-17) yet the different rendering of Amos done by the Jews in their 'special translation' states the passage differently with just the change of one Hebrew letter or word! When James offered his rendering of Amos, learned Pharisees present at that Jerusalem Council would have objected strenuously had James quoted incorrectly. Thereby we may be assured that James quotes the 'unedited' version of Amos. [See footnote#2 in Scofield's Standard Reference Bible on Amos 9:12] But ought that be used to sow doubt that the Bible accomplishes that which God intends for His Word? Not at all, yet you use issues of incompleteness and inaccuracy to sow doubt into which you hope to spread the seeds of Mormonism. It is getting disgusting to behold as you serve this divisive spirit so cunningly and --it is my prayer-- so 'inadvertently'.
I sure hope so!
Sounds like a great test!!!
Isn’t it fun when the apologists assume as fact that which they presume to prove, as with the notion of sticks of Judah and Joseph being books?... As in ‘see, our fabricated Book of Mormon is the other stick written about’.
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