Posted on 08/27/2007 3:45:42 PM PDT by maryz
The Real Reasons
I would like to explain the incorrect and the correct reasons of conserving the Traditional Mass, as we have previously published, [as follows]:
Why do we love, preserve and prefer the classic liturgical form of Roman rite, The Traditional Mass?
Would it be only because we are nostalgic or sentimentally attached to past forms of liturgy? This reason alone would not be enough.
Would it be because we deny the power of the Pope to modify and promulgate liturgical laws? This would be against the Pope's supreme power dogma!
Would it be because we just consider the New Mass, or Paul VI's Mass, invalid, heterodox, sinful, sacrilegious, or not Catholic? These statements would be against Church's indefectibility dogma and unity of cult dogma, and they have already received the Teaching Church's anathema. Therefore, it [the Novus Ordo's promulgation] is a universal liturgical law, promulgated by Church's supreme authority 34 years ago and adopted unanimously by the whole Teaching Church.
The real reasons we love, prefer, and preserve the Classical liturgical form of the Roman rite are:
for a better and more precise expression of our faith in eucharistic dogmas,
for safety, for protection against abuses,
for the good of whole Church, in contribution for liturgical crisis' reform,
for wealth and solemnity of rites,
for better precision and clarity of rubrics (giving no space to "ambiguities, liberties, creativities, adaptations, reductions, and instrumentalizations," as complains Pope John Paul II in Ecclesia de Eucharistia, nn. 10, 52, 61),
for the sense of sacredness,
more wealth and precision of prayers' formulas, in reverence,
for personal and ritual humility,
for elevation and nobility of ceremonies,
for respect, beauty, good taste, piety, sacred language, tradition, and legitimate right recognized by Church's Supreme Authority. (Bishop Fernando Rifan, copied)
I know that this has been posted before, I just wanted to repost it -- hope that is ok...
Always good to have a reminder! ;-)
Ave Maria!
Thanks for re-posting it (I never saw it before). Pray for us as the priests in my friary are having a “practicum” for the Tridentine Mass this Friday (the brothers on Thursday for serving).
Pax et bonum.
**Pray for us as the priests in my friary are having a "practicum" for the Tridentine Mass this Friday (the brothers on Thursday for serving).**
Consider it done.
What's he afraid of and what am I missing?
I think it was Diogenes of CWN who compared it to someone opening a used Edsel dealership on the same street with all the Mercedes, Lexis, Toyota, etc. dealerships -- would they all join together fiercely to prevent it?
I did not call the Mass an “abhomination”. Actually, I don’t even know what an abhomination is. Perhaps it is some liturgical term that, in my great ignorance, I am unaware of.
My criticism is directed at how the Mass has been stripped of its beauty and turned into a kumbaya fest that, , IMO, detracts from the celebration of our Savior’s Sacrifice.
You called it a monstrosity.
Calling the Mass a "monstrosity" is monstrous.
Calling abuses of the Mass "monstrosities", or "abhominations", or any number of other epithets is deserved.
But that's not what you did.
My criticism is directed at how the Mass has been stripped of its beauty and turned into a kumbaya fest that, , IMO, detracts from the celebration of our Saviors Sacrifice.
Are you referring to the widespread abuses of the Mass, or to the Mass itself?
Are you referring to the widespread abuses of the Mass...
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Yes, of course. I would not call the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass a monstrosity.
I am no theologian and not religious scholar of any sort, but I know that, during the course of my lifetime, I have seen the liturgy robbed of its beauty and diminished in its capacity to inspire reverence. I have, consequently, felt robbed, myself, of the deep level of experiencing the Holy Mystery that I once was afforded. After all these years, I still grieve for that.
Interestingly enough, not long after posting comments here, I spotted this posting. This priest sums up extremely well much of what I feel has been lost.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1888300/posts
BTW, I think that the word you were going for is “abomination”.
Sorry, this part of my last post to you was an erroneous fragment that should have been deleted:
Interestingly enough, not long after posting comments here, I spotted this posting. This priest sums up extremely well much of what I feel has been lost.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1888300/posts
Thank you for clarifying that. I’ve seen some downright blasphemous rhetoric from self described Traditionalists. Not knowing you or what position you take on the matter of the current Mass, I did not wish to let that bit go unchallenged.
Thanks for the link. I’ve already been there. It’s an excellent thread.
Ave Maria!
Thanks for the prayers. The training with the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter priest, Rev. Mark Fischer, went very well. We should have 3 priests offering the extraordinary form of the Roman Rite, the Tridentine Mass, on a regular basis. We will start with low Mass on Fridays and go from there.
Introibo ad altare Deum...
Spot on.
We are all called through our baptism and confirmation to spread the Gospel and call people to conversion through evangelizing. It’s not really a priesthood, but it is definitely a lay position that has been sorely neglected in the Catholic Church. It is starting to get worken up — thanks be to God!
Thanks for the prayers. The training with the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter priest, Rev. Mark Fischer, went very well. We should have 3 priests offering the extraordinary form of the Roman Rite, the Tridentine Mass, on a regular basis. We will start with low Mass on Fridays and go from there.
Wow! That is very good news. I have been thinking about you and your request. I wanted to know the outcome of your test, but didn't know how to ask you. It never entered my mind to sign on to see if you responded (*s*). Congratulations!!
I will continue to keep you in my prayers. We need good Priest to carry our Tradition. I think that we came very close to losing it and many people don't even know it.
Sorry that this is so late -- I just don't sign on everyday, but I do pray everyday.
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