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Old Latin Mass Makes a Comeback (in St. Louis)
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| June 14, 2007
Posted on 06/14/2007 11:25:30 AM PDT by NYer
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It seems the St. Louis Post-Dispatch has finally heard about the traditional Mass. The
following story appears in today's edition--the headline, above, is theirs. My comments follow.
Old Latin Mass Makes a Comeback
By Tim Townsend
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
06/14/2007
Melinda Scanga (left), of Jefferson County, prays during Latin mass at St. Francis De Sales Oratory. (Dawn Majors /P-D)
The church's windows are broken, its beige bricks are sooty, its paint is chipped. The 300-foot steeple, a hallmark of the St. Louis skyline, is pulling away from its foundation. One day it could tumble into traffic on Gravois Avenue.
St. Francis de Sales church, often called the Cathedral of South St. Louis, is an ideal home for a group of Roman Catholic priests devoted to restoration. But restoring this 19th-century neo-Gothic church to its former glory is only one reason St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke assigned the priests to oversee St. Francis de Sales.
The real mission of the group, called the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, is the restoration of the traditional Latin Mass.
The 1,600-year-old Mass isn't used much today, but it's making a comeback.
That effort will get a boost Friday when Burke — one of the most devoted supporters of the old Latin rite among U.S. bishops — will ordain two deacons of the Institute at the Cathedral Basilica. Burke has ordained members several times in Italy, where the institute is based outside Florence. But Friday will mark the first time members of the 17-year-old institute will be ordained in the United States and the first time the traditional Latin liturgy will be used in an ordination here in more than 40 years.
Most of the world's 1 billion Catholics are familiar with the celebration of Mass in their own languages. The traditional Latin Mass, also referred to as the Tridentine Mass, Classical Latin Mass, Old Rite, Classical Roman Rite or Mass of Ages, was largely set aside by the church in the 1960s when the Second Vatican Council approved changes in the liturgy.
The Latin Mass is thick with pageantry, solemnity and symbolism and is often referred to as "smells and bells" for its generous use of incense and music.
A papal decree, which Vatican officials have said should be released soon, is likely to expand the use of the ancient Mass. The decree — called a motu proprio — is expected to allow any priest to celebrate the traditional Latin Mass without the permission of his bishop.
Vatican watchers say the decree could be released July 14, the date, in 1570, when Pope Pius V published the liturgical text that would be used to celebrate Mass for the next 400 years — until the reforms of Vatican II.
In today's church, priests are free to celebrate the post-Vatican II liturgy, or new order Mass, in Latin — though most don't. What a priest cannot do without the permission of his bishop is celebrate the traditional Latin Mass as it was structured, worded, sung and heard in 1962, the last time it was changed before Vatican II.
Audio slideshow of the Latin Mass
Because two generations of American Catholics are accustomed to hearing the Mass celebrated in English, it's unlikely most will want to switch to a liturgy that is longer, more formal and celebrated in a language they don't understand.
But some Catholics would welcome a choice.
Eric Kraenzle, 44, of Webster Groves and a member of St. Pius V parish in St. Louis, said he thought it was a good idea for the Vatican to expand the use of the traditional Latin Mass.
"It would be a nice option," he said. "I'm not sure it's for everyone because of the language barrier, but why not let people experience that tradition if they want to?"
In St. Louis, Catholics who love the traditional Latin Mass have a bishop who shares their feelings. Burke was the first bishop to bring the Institute of Christ the King to the United States when, as bishop of LaCrosse, Wis., he invited its priests into his diocese. He also established another group of religious men dedicated to the old Latin rite, called the Canons Regular of the New Jerusalem, while in Wisconsin. He has since moved that group to St. Louis.
Burke declined to be interviewed for this story.
The institute is a "society of apostolic life" within the church. Its priests are not quite part of a religious order, nor are they quite diocesan priests. They live in community as religious order priests do, but they take no vows.
A papal decision reinstituting the wider use of the church's ancient liturgy would be a celebratory moment for the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest.
Monsignor Michael Schmitz, the institute's U.S. superior, has said the motu proprio "will be like seeing your mother all dusty and in rags on the streets; you go up to her and rip off the old dusty clothing and below that you see the golden clothes that she has brought for the most beautiful ball she has ever attended.
"Many of those Catholics who love the traditional Latin Mass are part of a younger generation, people who are seeking a connection with the ancient history of their faith, said the Rev. Karl Lenhardt, St. Francis de Sales rector. For instance, he said, the average institute priest (there are 50 around the world) is in his 30s, and the institute has 70 young men in various states of training.
The Rev. Eugene Morris, a theology professor at Kenrick-Glennon Seminary, said younger Catholics who have no memory of the old Latin Mass are attracted to the "traditional symbols and rituals that in some ways communicate more clearly the historicity and mystery of what we are celebrating."
Outside St. Francis de Sales on Sunday, Daniel Frasca, 28, of St. Charles said he attends Mass there "because it feels more like church here than at other Masses.
"Natalie Kummer, 31, a mother of four from Florissant, said she liked to experience the same Mass as Catholics a millennium ago. "It's more reverent," she said, "more beautiful."
St. Agatha Church, also in south St. Louis, hosted the archdiocese's old Latin Mass before it was moved to St. Francis de Sales in 2005. According to Lenhardt, about 300 people came to one traditional Latin Mass each Sunday at St. Agatha. At St. Francis, the number is close to 1,000 for two Masses each Sunday, he said.
On Sunday, about 500 people gathered in St. Francis, for a 10 a.m. Mass that lasted more than two hours. Before Mass, and for about 45 minutes after it began, the line for confessions was 10 deep at three different elaborately carved wooden confessionals inside the church. Most of the women and girls wore black or white lace head coverings. The army of priests, deacons, subdeacons and altar boys in the sanctuary, which is separated from the nave by an altar rail, wore an array of ornate vestments. Six members of the Knights of Columbus, dressed in full regalia and bearing swords, escorted the clergy to the altar before the Mass began.
The pace of the traditional Latin Mass can seem slow and drawn out to those used to the newer liturgy. Long periods go by while the congregation sits still, watching the rituals in the sanctuary, praying and listening to the chanting of the choir. But it is exactly this meditative quality of the Mass that attracts some Catholics.
Mostly, though, it is tradition — as important in Catholicism as Scripture — that draws so many people to the old Latin rite. With the traditional Latin Mass, "we merge into a stream that has its origins in Christ himself, and that goes until the end of time," said Lenhardt.
Before high Mass on Sunday, Kummer stopped her son Joseph outside the church to wipe a smudge of dirt from his forehead. She seemed excited but contemplative as they walked through St. Francis de Sales' large wooden doors into a two-hour ritual that would be the same this Sunday as it was for some of the earliest Christians.
"They used to say Mass was the most beautiful thing this side of heaven," said Kummer. "That's what it's like here."
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My comments: All in all, for a secular paper, a very nice story, and largely favorable. The article starts out with some doom and gloom about how the Church building needs restoration (it does, but is presently still gloriously beautiful). You think it will be the typical, "these people are stuck in the past" hatchet job. But it isn't.
The Mass is making a comeback, they note. True. Some of my favorite parts of the article--
A novus ordo Catholic is quoted as supporting giving the faithful the choice of this rite.
Fr. Lenhardt at de Sales is quoted well, noting that many of the people who choose the traditional Mass are young, "people who are seeking a connection with the ancient history of their faith."
Fr. Morris, of the local archdiocesan seminary, states that the traditional Mass "in some ways communicate[s] more clearly the historicity and mystery of what we are celebrating."
A member of the oratory is quoted saying "it feels more like Church here than at other Masses." Amen.
The reporter notes that close to 1,000 people go to Mass at St. Francis de Sales Oratory each Sunday,and that the several confession lines were jammed all day. You don't see that everywhere, do you?
How better to some up the experience than to quote Fr. Lenhardt about the traditional Mass: in it, "we merge into a stream that has its origins in Christ Himself, and that goes until the end of time."
Oh, as an aside, I don't know where the local paper gets the inside info on the next expected date of the motu proprio. We hope, but so far all predictions have left us disappointed.
If you can make the ordination Mass at the Cathedral tomorrow at 1pm, you won't be disappointed.
TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; latin; liturgy; mass; tlm; traditionalmass; tridentine
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posted on
06/14/2007 11:25:35 AM PDT
by
NYer
To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
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posted on
06/14/2007 11:27:08 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
To: NYer
That’s a good thing.
As a non-Catholic, I have to say that the Catholic Mass is a beautiful and moving experience, especially in Latin. If my own faith had something similar I might go back to church.
3
posted on
06/14/2007 11:33:28 AM PDT
by
angkor
To: NYer
It’s a shame my wife’s Uncle Leo isn’t around to see this happening. What he saw happening in his Church during the last 40 years of his life broke his heart.
4
posted on
06/14/2007 11:43:26 AM PDT
by
FormerLib
(Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
To: NYer
5
posted on
06/14/2007 12:29:21 PM PDT
by
adiaireton8
("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
To: angkor
If my own faith had something similar I might go back to church. Okay ... that begs the question ... what is your own faith?
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posted on
06/14/2007 1:10:19 PM PDT
by
NYer
("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
To: adiaireton8
I'll be there tomorrow. Do you mean at the ordinations in the Cathedral?
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posted on
06/14/2007 1:16:05 PM PDT
by
ELS
(Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
To: angkor
You know, you're always welcome at Mass!
We have a fine parish, it's N.O. but we use a lot of Latin.
If you want to go hard core, we also have St. Francis de Sales, Mableton, which is a Latin Mass parish run by another of the orders devoted to the Tridentine -- the FSSP (Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Petri - Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter).
The contrast between the outside of the church and the inside is almost mind-boggling (it used to be a little Baptist chapel):
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posted on
06/14/2007 1:25:46 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: NYer
Okay ... that begs the question ... what is your own faith?The unfortunate Presbyterian church which has literally been ripped in two by social activism and a dilettante's interest in leftist causes.
Last I recall the Eucharist was a perfunctory exercise, but it's been a long time.
I'm glad my grandmother isn't around to see what's happened.
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posted on
06/14/2007 2:06:18 PM PDT
by
angkor
To: AnAmericanMother
Thanks for the invite, I think that’s a long way from Virginia.
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posted on
06/14/2007 2:08:06 PM PDT
by
angkor
To: ELS
Do you mean at the ordinations in the Cathedral? Yep.
-A8
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posted on
06/14/2007 2:29:46 PM PDT
by
adiaireton8
("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
To: NYer
Mass there is *beautiful.* Fr. Lenhardt is a truly holy man. God bless Archbishop Burke for inviting them. I wish I could convince my husband to make St. Francis de Sales our parish home, but he doesn’t see the point. All I can do is pray and keep asking to attend the occasional Sunday Mass there.
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posted on
06/14/2007 2:52:40 PM PDT
by
Sashula
To: NYer
The author has problems with math. The TLM is not 1,600 years old and it's not from the "first millennium."
Other than exaggerated antiquity of the TLM, the article was good. I am happy to see our Latin brothers and sisters being able toe xperience what the Estern churches experience every Sunday.
Hopefully, this will not be just a fad.
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posted on
06/14/2007 3:00:56 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: NYer
From the slide show: the church is gorgeous!
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posted on
06/14/2007 3:05:54 PM PDT
by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
To: angkor
Virginia?
Hmmmmm.....
1) Alexandria, Virginia: St. Lawrence the Martyr Church; 6222 Franconia Rd, Zip 22310 Mass times: Sun: 12:30 PM.
2) Bon Air, Virginia St. Joseph’s Catholic Church 828 Buford Road, Zip 23235 Mass times: Sun: 8:30 AM., 11:00 AM.
Mon: 12:00 PM.
Tue: 12:00 PM.
Wed: 6:45 PM.
Thu: 12:00 PM.
Fri: 12:00 PM.
Sat: 10:30 AM.
Contact(s): Fr. Adrian Harmening OSB
Pho.: (804) 342-1319
Web page : http://www.rc.net/richmond/stjoes/
3) Chesapeake, Virginia: St. Benedict Chapel 521 McCosh Drive, Zip 23320 Mass times: Sun: 8:00 AM., 10:30 AM.
Mon: 8:00 AM.
Tue: 8:00 AM.
Wed: 8:00 AM.
Thu: 8:00 AM.
Fri: 7:00 PM.
Sat: 9:00 AM.
Contact(s): Fr. Kevin Willis, FSSP 825 Carolyn Dr. Pho.: (757) 543-0561 Community: A Latin Mass Ministry of St. Gregory the Great Web page : http://www.stbenedict-chesapeake.com/
4) Frint Royal, Virginia: St. John the Baptist
123 W. Main St. Mass times: Sun: 12:30 PM.
22630
Maybe one of these Latin Mass centers is near you?
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posted on
06/14/2007 3:27:01 PM PDT
by
vladimir998
(Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
To: adiaireton8
That’s just wonderful! V’s wife
16
posted on
06/14/2007 5:43:15 PM PDT
by
ventana
To: angkor
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posted on
06/14/2007 6:00:20 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: adiaireton8
Lucky you. I wish I could be there. I am looking forward to the photos, and possibly videos, that will be posted on the Web.
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posted on
06/14/2007 7:14:27 PM PDT
by
ELS
(Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
To: NYer; kosta50
The 1,600-year-old Mass isn't used much today
Holy bells and smells! A secular newspaper claims the TLM as "the Mass of All Ages"!
Kosta, this Mass is a version of the Roman Mass, which does have a pedigree going back to that time. Pope Pius V was no fool and no revolutionary, he did little more but codify and promulgate the Mass it was said in Rome in his time.
To: angkor
Why not go to Mass??? Has no one invited you to go with them? Catholics don’t usually do that, but I go to dailt Mass and there are quite a few non-Catholics there every day and especially on Sunday.
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posted on
06/14/2007 7:29:27 PM PDT
by
Suzy Quzy
(Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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