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To: Knitting A Conundrum

That's what I do, too, but to show you how far this has gone, about two months ago, I was at Sunday Mass in my NO church and said the Our Father in my usual way (as you have described). Then came the dread handshake of peace, which I really dislike but which I obediently do anyway - and the lady who was in my pew (the only other person in the pew) refused to shake my hand. She said, "well, if you didn't want to hold hands with me at the Our Father, I guess I don't want to shake your hand now." I was dumbfounded. So much for "peace!"

It just shows you what a completely distorted idea of this "Our Father" moment most people have gotten. And I have yet to hear the clergy say anything about it.


50 posted on 02/24/2007 1:21:36 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

I had someone do that to me the other day, but I can't help it if they don't understand. It's sad.


52 posted on 02/24/2007 1:34:49 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: livius
dread handshake of peace

...The proximate reason I stopped attending the Novus Ordo, although I subsequently learned there were infinitely more important liturgical reasons to limit my attendance to the old rites.

She said, "well, if you didn't want to hold hands with me at the Our Father, I guess I don't want to shake your hand now."

I just asked a local NO parishioner if they hold hands in this parish during the "Our Father" and she said "No, not anymore". So I guess things could be worse here locally. I also get the impression they have returned to less progressive music.

It amused me last summer when I came across a Lutheran newsletter saying that their local church offers both a traditional and a progressive service (or words to that effect). So I guess Catholics are not alone in this Novus vs. Trad struggle. Unfortunately, people's tastes often split generationally, although I know that in the Catholic world there are a number of young people who correctly perceive the merits of the pre-Vatican II rites.

53 posted on 02/24/2007 1:46:39 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: livius
"well, if you didn't want to hold hands with me at the Our Father, I guess I don't want to shake your hand now." I was dumbfounded.

Wow...so much for the Spirit of Vatican II. She is treating you like you have been anathemitized. You know I don't think that there is any version of the Novus Ordo Missal that allows for the holding hands thing....you know that they write the rubrics down for a reason, namely to prevent liturgical abuses and corruptions.

57 posted on 02/24/2007 2:07:13 PM PST by old republic
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In my parish the hand holding goes to extremes. The people form hand holding chains that cross the aisles and go front to back. It seems more appropriate to a kindergarten class than a religious service.


69 posted on 02/26/2007 12:51:46 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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