[stfassisi]

Again, Hershel Shanks commented that now the scrolls have been released, with much help from Catholic scholars, it was "without the slightest shake of or shock to the church's foundations."

[stfassisi]

Ping!

[ClearCase_guy]

Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh

Their book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" was basically re-packaged and printed as "The DaVinci Code" by Dan Brown.

If Baigent and Leigh say the Dead Sea Scrolls will damage Christianity, then I guess I have to believe them! [/heavy sarcasm]

[ml/nj]

He said more than one interpretation of the text is possible.

The right one and the wrong one?

ML/NJ

[El Cid]

Yeah, like I'm going to believe some writings (stashed away in a cave for 2 millennia) from some First Century recluse hippies over the Received Text - the Living Word...

The Dead Sea scrolls contain interesting stuff, no doubt, but they aren't Scripture - and are more useful for anthropological studies than for theology.

[Mr. Jeeves]

The Palestinian outlook they describe was (p. 10) "Zealot, engaging, xenophobic and apocalyptic".

Nothing ever changes, does it? ;)

[Alex Murphy]

For nearly 2500 words, the article discusses nothing but the scrolls, and then the author switches gears from out of the blue...

But it is time to come to the essential flaw in the work on Eisenman and Wise: The basic trouble is that they have bought the tragic mistake of Martin Luther, who thought Paul meant we can violate the law freely with impunity. So Eisenman and Wise call Paul's thought "antinomian" (p. 10).

Luther really was antinomian, Paul was not: Cf. Luther's Epistle of August 1 1521 (Luther's Works, American Edition 48. 282: "Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly. . . . No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."

Like a Trojan Horse, the article starts off in one direction, but once inside the gates it reveals it's actual agenda....

[redgolum]

Actually, there was a lot more concern that the Scrolls followed the LXX more than other Hebrew texts. In fact, that has led a few to say the scrolls are forgoes as they "could not have been Jewish texts" because in places they follow the LXX (with the vowel marks).

[FourtySeven]

Very interesting EWTN find, thanks for posting it!

[Logophile]

Allegro had been a member of the scroll team, the only one to publish his work early. But he was an avowed agnostic. His book, The Sacred Mushroom, said Jesus never really existed, he was only an image developed by Christians under the influence of a hallucinating drug, psilocybin.

I wonder whether Allegro wrote his book under the influence of a hallucinogenic drug.

[dangus]

>> Again, Hershel Shanks commented that now the scrolls have been released, with much help from Catholic scholars, it was "without the slightest shake of or shock to the church's foundations." <<

If anything, the Dead Sea Scrolls invalidated many of critical scholars objections to the bible. The fact that nothing challenges Christianity is also quite remarkable in itself.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Again, Hershel Shanks commented that now the scrolls have been released, with much help from Catholic scholars, it was "without the slightest shake of or shock to the church's foundations." ****

It seems that everything they "find" is supposerd to shake the church, but doesn't.
Maybe it is that ROCK foundation.

[sevenbak]

Ping!

[Zionist Conspirator]

DEAD SEA SCROLLS: THREAT TO CHRISTIANITY?

Well, I certainly hope so.

But then, the Bible is a threat to chr*stianity.

[sevenbak]

I think this whole report is quite misleading. For those who know anything about the Dead Sea Scrolls, it's common knowlege that most of them were written pre-Christ. There is a 300 year gap betwen the end of the OT and the start of the NT. The Messianic teachings of many of the scrolls are much like Isaiah, prophesiing of the messiah, but even more so. To me they support the biblical texts in a way that we simply haven't had before. The bible is scoffed at by un-believers today more so than any time in history. The scrolls have texts goign back 1000 years than was previosuly known. They contain EVERY single OT book except 1, I forget which one. They also contain the Prophecies by Ezekiel, Jeremiah and Daniel not found in the current bible. I just don't see why all the DSS bashing is going on?

And as far as Christian texts withing the DDS, that is still being debated.

Here is a couple of references that I'll pass on, and then be quiet. The first one is from the DSS, the next, from the NT.

4Q246 “...he will be called great...and by his name he will be designated...’Son of God’ will he be called and ‘Son of the Most High’ they will call him....His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom and all his ways will be truth. He will jud[ge] the earth in truth and all will make peace. The sword will cease from the earth and all provinces will worship him. The great God will be his patron...His sovereignty is everlasting sovereignty...” (Shanks, p. 69)

(Luke 1:32 NIV) “He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,

(Luke 1:33 NIV) and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end.”


And this one is thought to be actual verbage from the texts of St. Mark.

“...for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened
And when they had crossed over, they came to land at Genessaret and moored the boat...” (A Gospel among the Scrolls?, Graham Stanton, Bible Review, December 1995)



If anyone is interested, here's an interesting link on 25 facinating facts about the DDS's.

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html