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Congratulations, Pope Shenouda III !

You didn't even want to meet with Pope John Paul II, so why should we be surprised to see you reacting - WITHOUT HAVING HEARD/READ WHAT THE POPE HAD TO SAY - with a response that earns you a place on the stage with Hezbollah, the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, the Grand Sheik of Al-Azhar Mosque, and an assortment of spiritual leaders who surely have more respect for you than we poor Roman Catholics.

From other Christian leaders, Orthodox and otherwise . . . listen . . . why, it's The Grand Silence!

Thanks, everyone!

1 posted on 09/16/2006 9:58:21 PM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: TaxachusettsMan
Coptic Pope Shenouda III said in published remarks that he didn't hear Benedict's exact words but that "any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ."

he didn't even hear the remarks????

2 posted on 09/16/2006 10:11:55 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
Automatic denunciation. ROBOT.
3 posted on 09/16/2006 10:14:48 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
Coptic Pope Shenouda III should read his Bible a little more often. I believe it says that "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

I do believe Allah is 'another God'.

5 posted on 09/16/2006 10:41:50 PM PDT by BigFinn
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To: TaxachusettsMan

And what has the REV. Jackson said about it?


6 posted on 09/16/2006 10:52:38 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: TaxachusettsMan

A thousand years of living under Muslim rule have made the pope of Alexandria a fearful person. He know what the Muslims are like.


7 posted on 09/16/2006 11:14:12 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
The head of Egypt's Coptic Orthodox Church on Saturday became the first top Christian leader to join the Muslim world in denouncing comments made by Pope Benedict XVI's about Islam and jihad...

The Coptic church is under perpetual persecution from Muslims. Thus any condemnation from church leaders should be considered as if it came from someone with a gun to their head, or more accurately , a knife to their throat.

8 posted on 09/17/2006 12:02:39 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: TaxachusettsMan

***Congratulations, Pope Shenouda III ! ***

What can the world expect when you are a Dhemmi in your own country!


9 posted on 09/17/2006 5:20:00 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have never found a fight they couldn't run from...Ann Coulter))
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To: TaxachusettsMan
It's a denunciation that doesn't denounce anything, though. The point of saying "I don't know what the specific words were" is to avoid making any comment whatever on what the Pope actually said. And he didn't -- he spoke in generalities.

He's in a very difficult position, so he's saying something soothing and meaningless. Why do people think that's so terrible?

11 posted on 09/17/2006 5:25:00 AM PDT by JimKalb
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To: TaxachusettsMan
"Christianity and Christ's teachings instruct us not to hurt others, either in their convictions or their ideas, or any of their symbols — religious symbols," Shenouda was quoted as saying in the pro-government Al-Ahram newspaper.

Right. Because Christ never preached against anyone...it would have been wrong to hurt, say, moneychangers.

12 posted on 09/17/2006 5:27:24 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: TaxachusettsMan
Christian Leader (with his own anti-Catholic agenda) Joins Muslims in Denouncing Pope's Remarks
13 posted on 09/17/2006 5:31:34 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
Coptic Pope Shenouda III said in published remarks that he didn't hear Benedict's exact words but that "any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ."

I question the wisdom (indeed, the sanity) of any man, regardless of his position in a church or his title, that doesn't realize that Jesus Christ Himself - as He is in Truth, the Son of God and crucified Savior of Mankind who rose from the dead - offends those guys.

14 posted on 09/17/2006 6:43:24 AM PDT by .30Carbine (my spirit is singing)
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Coptic Pope Shenouda III said in published remarks that he didn't hear Benedict's exact words but that "any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ."

Wow!

Is this guy lost and not a follower of Yah'shua.

Yah'shua is the the G-d of Abraham , Isaac and Israel.

Allah is not the god of Abraham, Isaac and Israel !

Mohammed and his followers are followers of the Prince of the power of the Air.

b'shem Yah'shua
17 posted on 09/17/2006 5:19:51 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

Sad!


19 posted on 09/17/2006 5:36:10 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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This is the same Coptic Church that so many well-meaning Jews and pro-Zionist chr*stians defend so loudly against the moslems. The fact is the indigenous Middle Eastern churches are the most unregenerate and unrepentant anti-Semites on the face of the earth.

Anyone who is looking for a friend of the Jews or of "Bible chr*stians" in the ancient churches is wasting his time. These churches--made up of the descendants of the very first non-Jewish chr*stian converts--hate Israel and chr*stian Zionism, which they constantly label a heresy. These people are not our friends and it is an act of stupidity to defend them.

BTW, the Non-Chalcaedonian churches (of which the Coptic Church is one) are the most ethnic, most liberal, and least theological of all communions however aesthetically beautiful their liturgies might be. And this is the same Coptic Pope who is participating in the new age "united religions initiative."

Jews and American-style "Bible chr*stians" have no friends but each other. Count on it.

20 posted on 09/17/2006 6:09:55 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayehi `erev, vayehi voqer--Yom 'Echad!)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

Stockholm Syndrome


23 posted on 09/17/2006 7:47:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: TaxachusettsMan

I find it egregious that you would attack the Coptic Pope, Pope Shenouda III of Alaxandria.

Not just this, but you base your attack on an article from Fox news.
One would imagine that you, I assume a devout Catholic, would realize the atrocity of attacking so frivolously the patriarch of a church - a church very similar to your own.

I suppose I should not be overly upset since you probably have many blanks in your education regarding the history of Catholicism and of Coptic Orthodoxy, of Pope Shenouda III and of Christianity in the Middle East.
In fact, I very much doubt you even recognize the blatant errors in the article you are commenting on.
Did you even read Pope Shenouda’s exact response to Pope Benedict’s speech? After all, you mock Pope Shenouda for not reading the Catholic patriarch’s speech. It seems you fall short of meeting your own criticism.

The article here is flagrantly wrong factually. It misrepresents the ancient and modern history of the Coptic Church even in its few sentences. As an example, I’ll try to attach a link of a picture of Pope Shenouda III and Pope John Paul II’s meeting at the Pope’s reception in Egypt in 2000.
The Coptic Church along with Pope Shenouda is widely regarded as a preserved jewel of Christianity in the middle east, and is frequently at the forefront of Dialogue and debate with Islam. I am wary of anyone who would so humiliatingly portray a man who has unrelentingly attempted to bring the peace of Christ to harsh times.

Feel free to ask me questions. I believe we could all do with a little less Pope Bashing.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2005/737/_eg4.htm


25 posted on 09/18/2006 5:46:12 PM PDT by littlehenryk
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