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Christian Leader Joins Muslims in Denouncing Pope's Remarks
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| September 16, 2006
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Posted on 09/16/2006 9:58:20 PM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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Congratulations, Pope Shenouda III !
You didn't even want to meet with Pope John Paul II, so why should we be surprised to see you reacting - WITHOUT HAVING HEARD/READ WHAT THE POPE HAD TO SAY - with a response that earns you a place on the stage with Hezbollah, the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, the Grand Sheik of Al-Azhar Mosque, and an assortment of spiritual leaders who surely have more respect for you than we poor Roman Catholics.
From other Christian leaders, Orthodox and otherwise . . . listen . . . why, it's The Grand Silence!
Thanks, everyone!
To: TaxachusettsMan
Coptic Pope Shenouda III said in published remarks that he didn't hear Benedict's exact words but that "any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ." he didn't even hear the remarks????
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posted on
09/16/2006 10:11:55 PM PDT
by
Mo1
(Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
To: TaxachusettsMan
Automatic denunciation. ROBOT.
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posted on
09/16/2006 10:14:48 PM PDT
by
onyx
(1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
To: Mo1
The Islamo-whackjobs didn't understand the words and this Patriarch didn't even read/hear them!
But hey! Don't let your lack of facts or knowledge get in the way of a good effigy-burning riot or a public condemnation of your brother in Christ.
People are so mean-spirited and xenophobic when they think of this part of the world as . . . well . . . "primitive".
To: TaxachusettsMan
Coptic Pope Shenouda III should read his Bible a little more often. I believe it says that "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
I do believe Allah is 'another God'.
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posted on
09/16/2006 10:41:50 PM PDT
by
BigFinn
To: TaxachusettsMan
And what has the REV. Jackson said about it?
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posted on
09/16/2006 10:52:38 PM PDT
by
ladyinred
To: TaxachusettsMan
A thousand years of living under Muslim rule have made the pope of Alexandria a fearful person. He know what the Muslims are like.
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posted on
09/16/2006 11:14:12 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: TaxachusettsMan
The head of Egypt's Coptic Orthodox Church on Saturday became the first top Christian leader to join the Muslim world in denouncing comments made by Pope Benedict XVI's about Islam and jihad... The Coptic church is under perpetual persecution from Muslims. Thus any condemnation from church leaders should be considered as if it came from someone with a gun to their head, or more accurately , a knife to their throat.
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posted on
09/17/2006 12:02:39 AM PDT
by
D Rider
To: TaxachusettsMan
***Congratulations, Pope Shenouda III ! ***
What can the world expect when you are a Dhemmi in your own country!
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posted on
09/17/2006 5:20:00 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
((Democrats have never found a fight they couldn't run from...Ann Coulter))
To: D Rider
Well, somebody on another thread said that Shenouda wants to keep his 3 hots and a cot. Taking a look at the plump little guy, I'd say he's not suffering unduly, and the Coptic Church there is widely known to be nothing but an Egyptian government tool. Since the theoretically secular government has to make nice to the Islamic nutjobs, I guess he's just doing his duty to his employers.
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posted on
09/17/2006 5:23:16 AM PDT
by
livius
To: TaxachusettsMan
It's a denunciation that doesn't denounce anything, though. The point of saying "I don't know what the specific words were" is to avoid making any comment whatever on what the Pope actually said. And he didn't -- he spoke in generalities.
He's in a very difficult position, so he's saying something soothing and meaningless. Why do people think that's so terrible?
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posted on
09/17/2006 5:25:00 AM PDT
by
JimKalb
To: TaxachusettsMan
"Christianity and Christ's teachings instruct us not to hurt others, either in their convictions or their ideas, or any of their symbols religious symbols," Shenouda was quoted as saying in the pro-government Al-Ahram newspaper. Right. Because Christ never preached against anyone...it would have been wrong to hurt, say, moneychangers.
To: TaxachusettsMan
Christian Leader Joins Muslims in Denouncing Pope's Remarks
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posted on
09/17/2006 5:31:34 AM PDT
by
DoctorMichael
(A wall first. A wall now.)
To: TaxachusettsMan
Coptic Pope Shenouda III said in published remarks that he didn't hear Benedict's exact words but that "any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ." I question the wisdom (indeed, the sanity) of any man, regardless of his position in a church or his title, that doesn't realize that Jesus Christ Himself - as He is in Truth, the Son of God and crucified Savior of Mankind who rose from the dead - offends those guys.
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posted on
09/17/2006 6:43:24 AM PDT
by
.30Carbine
(my spirit is singing)
To: Mo1
"any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ." To declare that Jesus is Christ (Messiah) is offensive to Muslims. This Coptic Pope is a coward, refusing to suffer for Christ.
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posted on
09/17/2006 8:11:52 AM PDT
by
aimhigh
To: D Rider
The Coptic church is under perpetual persecution from Muslims. Thus any condemnation from church leaders should be considered as if it came from someone with a gun to their head, or more accurately , a knife to their throat.
Not that I am anyone's judge, but there's lots of stuff that Jesus said about being persecuted and standing for His name in the face of that persecution.
To: TaxachusettsMan
Coptic Pope Shenouda III said in published remarks that he didn't hear Benedict's exact words but that "any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ."Wow!Is this guy lost and not a follower of Yah'shua.
Yah'shua is the the G-d of Abraham , Isaac and Israel.
Allah is not the god of Abraham, Isaac and Israel !
Mohammed and his followers are followers of the Prince of the power of the Air.
b'shem Yah'shua
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posted on
09/17/2006 5:19:51 PM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
To: JimKalb
He could have said nothing at all. Plus he's a plump little dude who is obviously doing just fine on the handouts from his Muslim masters, so I guess he didn't want to upset the gravy train.
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posted on
09/17/2006 5:34:01 PM PDT
by
livius
To: TaxachusettsMan
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posted on
09/17/2006 5:36:10 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: TaxachusettsMan
This is the same Coptic Church that so many well-meaning Jews and pro-Zionist chr*stians defend so loudly against the moslems. The fact is the indigenous Middle Eastern churches are the most unregenerate and unrepentant anti-Semites on the face of the earth.
Anyone who is looking for a friend of the Jews or of "Bible chr*stians" in the ancient churches is wasting his time. These churches--made up of the descendants of the very first non-Jewish chr*stian converts--hate Israel and chr*stian Zionism, which they constantly label a heresy. These people are not our friends and it is an act of stupidity to defend them.
BTW, the Non-Chalcaedonian churches (of which the Coptic Church is one) are the most ethnic, most liberal, and least theological of all communions however aesthetically beautiful their liturgies might be. And this is the same Coptic Pope who is participating in the new age "united religions initiative."
Jews and American-style "Bible chr*stians" have no friends but each other. Count on it.
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