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How Did The Catholic Church Avoid The Dire Situation That Looms For The Episcopal Church?
Catholic Report ^ | June 23, 2006 | Dave Hartline

Posted on 06/23/2006 9:03:06 AM PDT by NYer

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To: AnAmericanMother

Good luck on your hunting trip! ;)


81 posted on 06/23/2006 1:24:41 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: NYer
"Gotta love St. Augustine ... "

I don't know if I mentioned this in an earlier post or not, but I read St. Augustine, well . . ., religiously. I have my own copy of The City of God.
82 posted on 06/23/2006 1:27:07 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: NYer
Welcome Home!

Thanks. Nice place you got here.

(But, hey, psst, the music, can you do something about that? I mean, I don't want to seem ungrateful or anything, but ....)

83 posted on 06/23/2006 1:30:03 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (If the gates of Hell prevail against it, it probably never was a church anyway.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

84 posted on 06/23/2006 1:34:09 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: marshmallow
I think that the individual on on the left was born male and the one on the right was born female. I would not venture a guess on whether either of them may have employed any medical procedures to correct what they perceive as an accident of birth.

It appears that the surfboard altar top rests on a trash barrel covered in a trash bag. It would be difficult to imagine a further degree of desecration of the Host. It seems pretty apparent whom they are really serving.

85 posted on 06/23/2006 1:40:56 PM PDT by Huber ("Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of classes - our ancestors." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Cheverus

You don't work with me, but that describes me perfectly. I don't have a problem with the idea of women priests, but I most definitely do have a problem with LIBERAL priests. And, unfortunately, most women priests are liberal.


86 posted on 06/23/2006 1:42:18 PM PDT by kellynch (I am excessively diverted. ~~Jane Austen)
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To: RonF
We do "Mass in the Grass" ourselves once or twice a year. As a Scouter, I've attended outdoor services many a time. So I have no problem with this conceptually.

The issue is not that it is an improvised outdoor service, but rather that it seems hardly improvised at all. Look at the photo more closely. You will notice the symbolism of the trash can as well at the rainbow motif. In this case the rainbow does not symbolize a new covenant between God and man, but rather one between man and man or woman and woman.

87 posted on 06/23/2006 1:48:55 PM PDT by Huber ("Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of classes - our ancestors." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
I'll get out cutlass and boarding axe if I have to, to prevent this one from going down.

LOL! It's not going down, because we have the Lord's pledge. Still, one of the reasons it's not going down is because we have a lot of committed laypeople, and it seems to me that the Lord is finally lighting a fire under a few bishops. I think a lot of the clergy wouldn't have been as bad as they were if it hadn't been for the bishops (who are actually not young - the youngest are Roger Dodger and Hubbard, I believe) who got elevated right after VatII. Sometimes people neglect the effect of bishops, whom most of us tend to think of as minor local bureaucrats, but I believe that it was the bishops who nearly brought down the Church in the US.

88 posted on 06/23/2006 1:52:40 PM PDT by livius
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To: beelzepug

LOL!!!


89 posted on 06/23/2006 1:53:29 PM PDT by livius
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To: RonF

Do you live in Florida? I have a friend here in Florida whose parish (very, very gay, btw) started doing "Mass on the Grass." Her kids have left the Church and, in fact, the Church is a joke in her town. Everybody knows it's nothing but gays and punch and cookies on the lawn.


90 posted on 06/23/2006 1:56:03 PM PDT by livius
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To: StJacques
I'm no boomer. I got claustrophobia just watching that movie.
91 posted on 06/23/2006 2:01:59 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: ArrogantBustard
Your broom isn't cooperating. Here's another:

U.S.S. Wahoo. Note the banner.

I wish somebody with PhotoShop capability would put BXVI or one of his lieutenants at the periscope or on the bridge of a sub . . . but I guess it might be taken the wrong way . . .

92 posted on 06/23/2006 2:06:15 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Mad Dawg
MD, ya just gotta find the right parish.

Here's ours, featured in a diocesan news article about the revival of chant and medieval/Renaissance polyphony:

Chant, Sacred Classics Reverberate Again In Parishes

Our choirmaster is the best. Get yourself on the Music Committee and start working.

93 posted on 06/23/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: marshmallow
Pockets of resistance will continue to appear for some time.

I'm couldn't be happier to hear that. Fight the good fight. You are on the Lord's side.

94 posted on 06/23/2006 2:18:12 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: Antoninus

I heard about that book a few years ago. It's on my reading list. I hope it's also on the reading lists of laypeople within the Catholic Church.


95 posted on 06/23/2006 2:20:15 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: Aquinasfan
You can't possibly reach such a conclusion with any degree of certainty since you know as little of what goes on behind the scenes as the rest of us. In a political sense, you're entitled to your opinion, just like the rest of us.

But I can. A good friend of mine (unfortunately gay) had his education at a prominent Catholic University paid for, ostensibly because he would become a priest. After graduating he said "No, thanks" to the Church. He has been quite frank about the gay situation at that school and within other environs of the Church.

I'm not tarring everyone with the same brush. Of course there are good men studying for the priesthood. But, it's clear that the Church knows what's going on.

96 posted on 06/23/2006 2:26:37 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: AnAmericanMother

Me too, again today, in fact. I'm a barber. One of my regular clients, a retire Nazarene minister, walked in, sat down & without so much as a "hello" said, "I saw that new woman bishop on TV last nite. I think that's really NEAT!"

Believe me, when I got done telling him all the reasons why it is anything BUT "neat," he was apologizing profusely for being suckered into looking at the Devil himself & seeing an angel! Glad I was able to make the scales fall from his eyes while the hair was falling from his head. I can't overlook, however, the possibility that standing behind him wielding a sharp pair scissors might have had something to do with his willingness to see where he'd gone wrong. LOL


97 posted on 06/23/2006 2:27:01 PM PDT by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: NYer
That photo was too much. I just had to try a caption.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Anyone know how to say Matt 8:8 in Heretic?

98 posted on 06/23/2006 2:38:15 PM PDT by impatient
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To: torqemada
LOL!

Preach it, brother!

Maybe the Nazarenes haven't been exposed to the covert nastiness of folks who join a church purely to pervert it and take it over. (Aren't they a species of Methodist?)

99 posted on 06/23/2006 2:42:38 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Shame I didn't think of it before...I should have set up a little barbershop at GC2006! What I wouldn't give to get Vicky Gene or Susan Russell in my chair. I'd have had that thing specially wired for the occasion. Everytime a heresy flowed from their mouth, I'd hit 'em with 10,000 volts - not enough to fry them - just enough to act as a deterrence. Something like that "Barkless Collar" that keeps the family dog from making life miserable.


100 posted on 06/23/2006 3:05:08 PM PDT by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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