Posted on 06/23/2006 9:03:06 AM PDT by NYer
"This is a photo of:
a) two women
b) two men
c)a woman on the left and a man on the right
d) a man on the left and a woman on the right. "
e) all of the above
We had a new member at our Hunting Retriever club last Saturday. He asked, somewhat diffidently, "Do y'all use electronic collars?"
There was a huge chorus of "Uh-huh, yup, sure do," and one of our members piped up, "Mister Sparky is our Friend."
How long ago was this? Year please.
There are norms in place that define how an outdoor Mass is to be conducted. There are also special kits for 'field masses'.
Twenty years ago, while visiting Assisi, I stumbled upon an 'open air' Mass. It was 'different', but the priest followed the established norms. No 'boogy board' altar. Reverence was pre-eminent.
WOW! Talk about clairvoyance - I just finished forwarding this to you and was thinking about you and it - then went to FR and checked messages -- and there it was! E-mail you soon Keep the (orthodox!) faith, Fr. Tom+
Around ten years ago. I hope things have changed since then.
We use that kind of "field kit" for every Knight of Columbus meeting (we always start with Mass). We've held Mass in our KofC hall, on the lawn by our Hall (before our annual chicken BBQ) or outside the Habitat house we're building (we build a new one each year).
...but we've never held one at the beach on a surfboard and a trash can.
:)
Think about it.
Canon 932, § 1. — The celebration of the Eucharist is to be performed in a sacred place, unless in a particular case necessity demands otherwise; in such a case the celebration must be done in a respectable place.The "field kit" is really intended for Masses in the field for the military, Mass in the home for someone who is ill and restricted to bed, Mass in a nursing home or prison without a proper chapel, etc. Otherwise, Mass outside of a church should be avoided. Open air Masses for the sake of novelty do not meet the demand of "necessity".
Much has changed. The Holy Spirit works in wondrous ways. In 2002, the media singled out the Catholic Church to exemplify the crisis of pedophilia. Certain bishops, in promoting personal agendas, had disregarded previous church teachings and allowed homosexuals into their seminaries. In 2005, Pope Benedict issued another instruction on priestly formation. It re-affirms the church's continuous teaching in this regard, but with stronger language.
Text of Vatican instruction on homosexuality and priestly formation
Also in 2005, the Vatican assigned a team to visit each US seminary to examine the criteria for admission of candidates and various aspects of priestly formation, including the intellectual formation of seminarians in the field of moral theology and the programs of human and spiritual formation aimed at ensuring they can faithfully live chaste, celibate lives.
The result of this scrutiny has been a purification of the priesthood. Vocations are up as more young men, the JPII generation, answer the call of service to God.
Meanwhile, the media has downplayed the child abuse by educators, numbers which are far greater those of all catholic priests combined. The media has also neglected to publish the statistics on child pedophilia by other christian ministers, rabbis and imams. I'm sure this will be of concern to you and hope you will inform others in this regard.
Although I am not Catholic, I am very pleased about the purge and re-vitalization of the priesthood.
I seem to remember a photo of pre-Pope JPII doing a mass on an overturned canoe. He would take groups of kids hiking and then celebrate an outdoor mass. It was at a time that conventional masses were frowned upon by the communists.
Thanks for the sentiments. As a Catholic, I am also very pleased. It may not be going on fast enough for my tastes, but I understand that an institution that is thousand of years old thinks of change in generational terms. I sometimes wish the "purge" involved the kicking to the curb of lots of bishops. Unfortunately, it seems to be changing mainly as they retire. The key is to watch the tone of the new bishops being appointed. So far, it does appear that the old liberal bishops are being retired as quickly after 75 as possible (they used to let them hang on for years before accepting the retirement) and are being replaced with more conservative bishops. The bishops in turn will have to clean out the priests and seminaries. That, too, appears to be happening in many dioceses. Give it another 50-100 years and they should be in good shape. The odd dissenter will be here and there, but the vast majority will be good.
"That was about 500 years ago with respect to the Anglican Church. The rest has been nature running its course."
For almost twenty years, I thought it was just fine to be Anglo-Catholic. Last year the Lord opened my eyes to finally understanding why the Magisterium of the Roman Catholic church was so necessary. Hubby and I "swam the Tiber" last fall!
Do you know how to swim? The Tiber Swim Team is always recruiting new members :-).
As a christian, you will recall the words of our Lord:
"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in Me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as You are in Me and I am in You. May they also be in Us so that the world may believe that You have sent Me. I have given them the glory that you gave Me, that they may be one as We are one." (John 17:20-22)
On August 6, 2000, the Feast of the Transfiguration of the Lord, Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI), in his position as Cardinal Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, issued the following declaration. I pray you may draw inspiration from it.
DOMINUS IESUS -
DECLARATION ON THE UNICITY AND SALVIFIC UNIVERSALITY OF JESUS CHRIST AND THE CHURCH.
I have a holy card that has Fr. Emil Kapaun (whose is our namesake at the Kapaun Mt. Carmel Catholic High school here in Wichita) saying Mass on top of his army jeep during the Korean war, course THAT'S an emergency I'd say
Babylon revisited?
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