Posted on 10/14/2005 7:01:46 AM PDT by NYer
VATICAN CITY, OCT. 13, 2005 (Zenit.org).- No one at the Synod of Bishops on the Eucharist has addressed the issue of the "Tridentine rite" Mass that the Latin Church used before the Second Vatican Council.
The prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments, Cardinal Francis Arinze, mentioned this at a press conference today when he evaluated the first phase of the synodal assembly.
"No synodal father has mentioned this point," said Cardinal Arinze, the co-president of the assembly. The so-called Tridentine rite was approved by Pope St. Pius V.
"If there are groups that desire the Tridentine Mass, this is already provided for," he said. "Bishops may allow it for groups."
"It is not a priority for the synod, as no one has spoken about it," the cardinal concluded. "The problem we have discussed is that many people don't go to Mass, and those that come don't understand -- they go to Communion but not to confession, as if they were immaculate."
Yeah, what he said.
Very well written. Nice critique.
I think we may also include that not every change that is a problem in the Mass is a official change. Just yesterday we had a fellow tell my daughter's CCD class in front of me that kneeling is going out the door, and officially, nobody in europe kneels. I leaned to another friend who also attends Indults and asked, "What GIRM did he read?"
The article is a comparison of the original Latin text of the Novus Ordo translated into English vs. the text of the TLM translated into English. It is done to show the difference in the prayers of both masses. There is no straw man.
True. Fortunately, God does not judge us on our Bible knowledge, but on how we implement His Commandment of Love.
Regards
Did you read his whole article?
To criticize the Novus Ordo Mass is to say that Christ lied and that the Church failed to protect what was most Sacred
This of course is a false statement. Pope Benedict XVI himself has criticized the Novus Ordo.
He's not using the ICEL translations - you didn't read the article. He deals with the ICEL translations in a different article though.
So, you are admitting that the Church, entrusted with the protection of the Sacred as promised by Jesus Christ, messed-up the most Sacred event in the whole of the cosmos?
BTTT!
Not so, there are threads on this forum that quote his criticisms. Here is one:
To His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI : An Open Letter from Traditional Catholics
but you probably won't read it either, oh well.
**"The problem we have discussed is that many people don't go to Mass, and those that come don't understand -- they go to Communion but not to confession, as if they were immaculate."**
Fantastic quote!
Not quite. The Canon itself goes back to at least Pope St. Gregory the Great, perhaps even before that. The other elements were added gradually over the centuries. What Pope St. Pius V did was "standardize" the rite used in the Holy See, and apply it to the rest of the Latin church. Certain other rites, such as the Ambrosian and Mozarbic, are still around.
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You accuse me of putting forth a straw man? Next you'll ask me if I admit that I have stopped beating my husband.
Is it possible to have a rational discussion?
I did not see an actual quote of Pope Benedict's.
You didn't look hard enough.
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