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To: murphE
First of all, that letter was from Tradionalists BXVI. Beyond mere conjecture on their part, I did not see an actual quote of Pope Benedict's. Give me a quote from Pope Benedict stating that the Novus Ordo Mass itself is flawed, not its improper implementations.

Bottom line is this:
This is from the First Vatican Council, "Dogmatic Constitution on the Church"

"For in the Apostolic See the Catholic religion has always been preserved unblemished, and sacred doctrine been held in honor."

This is you and every anti-Novus Ordo advocate:

"The Apostolic See has not preserved the Catholic religion unblemished."

There's no other way around it. You cannot throw out the Novus Ordo without throwing out the whole of Apostolic authority within the Catholic Church, thereby making you no different than an Anglican. Yes, the Tridentine Rite should be able to be celebrated just like the Maronite Rite, but not at the expense of removing the Novus Ordo. The theological implications of such an action shake the foundation of Catholicism itself.
37 posted on 10/14/2005 8:39:38 AM PDT by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: mike182d
"Tradionalists notBXVI"

*slaps forehead* oi vei!
38 posted on 10/14/2005 8:41:07 AM PDT by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: mike182d
Is it possible to have a rational discussion? I guess not.

I did not see an actual quote of Pope Benedict's.

You didn't look hard enough.

40 posted on 10/14/2005 8:44:28 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: mike182d
"The Apostolic See has not preserved the Catholic religion unblemished."

There's no other way around it. You cannot throw out the Novus Ordo without throwing out the whole of Apostolic authority within the Catholic Church,

Then why does that rule not apply to the Tridentine? Was it not unblemished? Was the Apostolic authority of every Pope from Pius V to Pius XII faulty?

That is the problem I have with the anti-Traditionalists.

53 posted on 10/14/2005 9:12:04 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Benedicamus Domino.)
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