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SIN , no such thing? YOU THINK Why is there confession?

Posted on 08/10/2005 2:44:36 PM PDT by Rosary

SIN, is a deliberate act against the laws of God.Sin affects each individual's soul and every person is born with a soul. The soul,the piece of each human that at death will never die,it is immortal. It- as the individual will, be judged before God,at the end of their life for both the good and the bad they have done and merit either,heaven a place of eternal happiness- or hell,a place of eternal punishment and misery for the SINS or Sins committed..without repentance and amendment of life. Confession,cleanses away the sin. That why the Catholic Church has Confession. Christ died to save mankind from their sins.Look at the crucifix,see how ugly the wounds of Christ! What pain SIN causes Jesus.


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What doth it profit a man or woman-if they gain the whole world and suffer the loss of their souls,by sin.
1 posted on 08/10/2005 2:44:38 PM PDT by Rosary
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To: Rosary; Gamecock; ksen
The soul,the piece of each human that at death will never die,it is immortal. It- as the individual will, be judged before God,at the end of their life for both the good and the bad they have done and merit either,heaven a place of eternal happiness- or hell,a place of eternal punishment and misery for the SINS or Sins committed..

There's nothing any of us can do to merit salvation. That's impossible. Sin was judged at the Cross by Christ sheeding His Blood (Hebrews 9:22) and we are justified by His grace (Romans 3:24). The only question remaining is man's faith.


2 posted on 08/10/2005 2:56:22 PM PDT by rdb3 (With my own Purple Haze, Jimi Hendrix never sounded so good...)
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To: Rosary

Salvation is by Grace thorough Faith. Simple as that.


3 posted on 08/10/2005 3:00:22 PM PDT by jtminton (Friends don't let friends have too much cowbell.)
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To: rdb3; jtminton

No one said anything about salvation, although chances are you don't understand that either.

Proper confession is, of course, impossible without faith in Christ. A sin, once confessed and repented for, is absolved. That sinner will sin again. There is, however, only one judgement. At that time his salvation will depend, under the sovereign will of Christ, on the sum total of his unconfessed sin. Indeed, even assuming the unknowable, -- that all sin is confessed and absolved at the time of death, -- the salvation is not merited by the act of confession, but granted by the sovereign Christ.


4 posted on 08/10/2005 3:12:59 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
No one said anything about salvation, although chances are you don't understand that either.

Okay. Whatever you say.


5 posted on 08/10/2005 3:20:49 PM PDT by rdb3 (With my own Purple Haze, Jimi Hendrix never sounded so good...)
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I didn't mean to avoid an argument, but it doesn't belong to a thread about confession. The notion that salvation is by faith alone is not supported by the scripture. I wrote a summary of what the Church teaches on faith, grace and works not long ago; I'd be happy to explain further on an appropriate thread.

Here is a very good article that addresses common Protestant fallacy of irresistible grace, salvation by faith alone, and the related matters Assurance of Salvation?.

6 posted on 08/10/2005 3:36:22 PM PDT by annalex
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No one said anything about salvation, although chances are you don't understand that either.

Wow, there is that Spirit of Love expressing itself again. And you want to lecture on this matter?

You must be a lawyer...

7 posted on 08/10/2005 3:43:34 PM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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To: annalex
Like I said, whatever you say.


8 posted on 08/10/2005 3:48:14 PM PDT by rdb3 (With my own Purple Haze, Jimi Hendrix never sounded so good...)
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To: Rosary
Sin is no different than crime.

It's not how bad the deed, or how often you do it, it's how good a mouthpiece you hire to plead your case.

You need a well connected lawyer and a well connected priest.

So9

9 posted on 08/10/2005 3:52:46 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Those Poor Poor Rubber Cows)
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To: Dark Skies

I am a computer engineer, and on a thread about confession I expect some basic understanding of what confession means, not Protestant sloganeering, of which we have no shortage.


10 posted on 08/10/2005 3:53:10 PM PDT by annalex
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I was just joking about your being a lawyer. On all threads on matters of faith, one looks for the voice of the Holy Spirit speaking through His servants. His voice is easy to hear. As Galations 5:22-23 says,

...the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith...meekness, temperance...

When someone jumps up with a response that shows characteristics other than those gifts, it is apparent that the motive is not that of the Holy Spirit but of the human poster (whether Protestant, Catholic or Messianic Jew).

11 posted on 08/10/2005 4:02:16 PM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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"Salvation is by Grace thorough Faith. Simple as that."

Excuse me. Could you be more specific? Paul tells us that faith is nothing without love (1 Cor 13:1). Does your definition of faith exclude love? And James said that faith without works is dead. You don't mention anything about works of love in the above "formula".

Could you tell me what faith is? Perhaps then we will actually agree.

Thanks


12 posted on 08/10/2005 4:03:15 PM PDT by jo kus (Protestantism...a house built on the sand of a self-refuting axiom)
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To: Dark Skies
Well, I am a human computer engineer.
13 posted on 08/10/2005 4:05:08 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Dark Skies
And I left it alone. I saw that it wouldn't be worth it since we were discussing two different things. Then all of a sudden I'm told what I don't understand.

Therefore, I'm out.


14 posted on 08/10/2005 4:05:45 PM PDT by rdb3 (With my own Purple Haze, Jimi Hendrix never sounded so good...)
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To: rdb3
Therefore, I'm out.

Me, too. How does a feller respond to the voice of anger on a thread about Love?

Let's go over to the Professional Wrestling threads...a lot friendlier.

15 posted on 08/10/2005 4:11:45 PM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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To: jtminton

Tell me how do gain Salvation for the soul if one point is to avoid SIN. How do you gain grace..


16 posted on 08/10/2005 5:01:56 PM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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Oh my ,you say there NOTHING we can do????? How much are you willing to learn HOW?


17 posted on 08/10/2005 5:04:29 PM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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To: jo kus

What faith? SIn is SIn . salvation in the souls comes how?


18 posted on 08/10/2005 5:06:00 PM PDT by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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To: Rosary

"What faith? SIn is SIn . salvation in the souls comes how?"

forgive me if I was unclear. I was addressing the comment that "salvation comes by grace through faith". My comment was asking for elaboration on the term "faith", since that poster thinks we are saved by faith. To understand him better, I asked him to define faith.

Yes, off topic, but the question is pertinent.

Salvation comes through Christ. I realize that "sin is sin" - which is not a very good definition, but I understand what you are saying.

Regards


19 posted on 08/10/2005 5:17:32 PM PDT by jo kus (Protestantism...a house built on the sand of a self-refuting axiom)
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To: Rosary; All
Here is a detailed article on confession (also known as penance or reconciliation): Reconciliation: The Sacrament of Conversion

A more introductory article, which also describes the actual process of confession is: Confession: Sacrament of Penance - Reconciliation

Scriptural support for the Sacrament of Confession can be found at: Scripture Catholic: Confession

20 posted on 08/10/2005 5:25:14 PM PDT by annalex
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