Posted on 05/26/2005 5:46:35 AM PDT by stormyseas
Prophecy, I think for the most part because of the book of Daniel and the kings dream. The statue represents (Daniel 2; 40-43) the kingdoms of the earth, And all preachers alike are saying we are waiting on the pope to be the false prophet and an empire likened to Rome. Well this same theory of what Daniel says has been around for as long as I can remember. So for me I decided to take God for one moment out of a box. And open my mind to what else it might say. Well I found That the U.N. has 189 members to a world judicial system, and everyone knows that a judicial system, pretty much has control of that it governs, then I found that the name of this system is the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. It is a treaty between 189 countries and it is to force peace, it is clearly a dictatorship. And the chairman or president is a man named Phillipe Kirsch, he is French-Canadian and of European decent. I just thought that if everyone was looking one way maybe we should really look somewhere else. After all Daniel does say that the prophecy of his book will be sealed until the end. Also when reading the documents I found that they gave it (the judicial system) a personality and even called it a personality. Which makes it a person per say. It is also from the start a rocky treaty one that doesn’t look at all like it will hold together. Maybe when we think rome we should look at a bigger rome. Maybe when we say world religion we should look at all religions combined that have stepped away from simplicity. God says him or mammon. So, all who worship mammon would be of one and all who worship God (yah) shall be of one. From the looks of things mammon is taking over the world. Or already has. I ask that you read this and pray over it for answers. Also remember that when we read the whole world will worship it....worship truly means bow down to...(give in)
http://www.icc.cp.int http://www.un.org/law/icc/statute/romefra.htm
Israel has been trying to be admitted to the Asian group last I knew. For Israel's enemies to be able to prevent Israel from being allowed to join her proper group, JUST WHO IS RUNNING THINGS? The UN? Or Israel's enemies?
Could you put that into your own words, even a little bit?
It is not narrow to those who seek and find the truth....but to those who do not...the path is narrow. How many people really seek in this world today...the truth about anything? Or do we just easily take some other mans word for it? Some of us seek and knock and knock and knock and while we are knocking we are watching constantly, waiting for the return of our saviour. So the road is only narrow to those who are blind and can not see the path to truth and rightousness.
Yep, and Yehoshua did say that there would be 'few' that would find it.
Mat 7:14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
There are more than a 'few' Christians. Just an observation.
The ten horns on the exceedingly dreadful beast represent ten kings. They are 1. Alemani (Germany), the 2. Franks (France), 3. Burgundians (Switzerland), the 4.Suevi (Portugal), the 5. Anglo-Saxons (Britian), the 6. Visigoths (Spain), The 7. Lombards (Italy), the 8. Vandals, 9. Ostrogoths, and 10. Heruli. The last three (the Vandals, Ostrogoths, and the Heruli) were destroyed by the Pope of Rome because they refused to become "Christians". The armies of Emperor Justinian, in cooperation with the Pope, thrust the Ostrogoths out of the city of Rome. They became extinct. In 538 AD the Pope took possession of the city after the Emperor decreed that the pope should be the head of all the Christian churches.
Actually those who also believe in this Rome statute....as a world kingdom, justice system, that actually makes a one world government now and some who know nothing about it (the Rome Statute of the ICC) believe the same thing....including me. I am sorry you have a different opinion from me, however it makes my opinion of no lesser value than yours. I am sure I have seeked the truth as hard as you have.
Let me ask you this....did you know that the UN has it's own world court system...ICC....that was started in Rome, signing a treaty for peace between 191 nations, calling it the Rome statute? Did you also know a judicial system is what makes a country a country? It would also make the world united as one country. In the beginning there were 7 countries in the UN that opposed a world court system feeling it would limit each countries power, it has now dwindled down to one, America. (I do not believe calling it the Rome statute is coincidence why would they name it that and why would they be seated in Rome when it was instuted in)? If you did know these things, then you have already researched this and know it means nothing. If you did not then you should. (Daniel 12:9) There is a possibility the book of Daniel is now completely open for us to understand, because we can actually see the things in front of us. So as for me, I will constantly watch, even if it means my opinion will change about prophecy, but I do not believe it will, after all it should be rapid in my opinion at this time, like a flood. We that are watching shall see it come. So it is good you are watching...:) Thanks for replying. God bless you.
This thread is way under 1 standard deviation for what used to be posted. We had an entire school of thought just on conspiracies and this would have been lightweight compared to what was posted then.
I'm trying to respond to points in your posts. It would be nice if you would do the same. You haven't addressed my #158 and shown why you think my points are not valid.
How does your #166 give a synopsis for your #160?
We all have our own beliefs about this, I shared mine and you yours and I am glad for you doing this. What you wrote to me sounds like the same prophecy that has been read to me from the time I can remember. The way (mostly everyone) has always seen it. The path will be narrow for the many, for few will find the gate. So all I know is I am responsible for me, my salvation and telling others my belief so that they might research and read to find their truth on their own. That's all I am doing. I have researched the scripture you just gave me as you gave it too me for many years when I was first saved. I walked away for a while and now I am glad I did, I feel as though I would have just believed what everyone else had found for themselves, without looking for myself (preconceived notion taught by others) Corinthians 11:3,4. Again I thank you for your input here.
This was for the UN beginnings not the Criminal Court. The way I read it here. (either way it is not the Catholic Church now) and the pope sits in on a lot of things all the popes to date call things together for peace or the sake of it supposedly. Some of them actually mean it. I apologise for being slow. I have never chatted much and I am not that great at this. I will do my best.
Can you show me where the UN or anything or anyone other than the Papacy changed YHWH's Laws, seasons and times?
If you read both together you will see, that all I am saying is from the beginning, I did not know I was to post news articles here, I was new. I know justice systems I have worked in a legal field for some years or somewhat (NCADP) no arguments please lol. And when I realised that all countries that we really consider countries, 191 became for the first time in the world, a world justice system, then knowing the judicial system controls what it governs, I knew that we were finally a world government. Started in Rome. And I wanted opinions that is all. Opinions on whether this could be the last kingdom. Even though I know what I believe, even though I do my best to explain it, I can talk a lot better. :) Anyway I dont see anything different in scripture and the last roman empire.....now. This is my opinion.
Oh Quix, I know it was a very long and exhausting road you traveled with your mother these last years.
She is with Him now and you have done well!
Travel with great peace in your loving heart.
Our Lord has much planned for you.
Daniel 7:25 It doesn't say will change times, it says, think to change times (try and fail) NO ONE can change God's times.
AND HE (the Antichrist)
SHALL SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST THE MOST HIGH. The Antichrist shall speak blasphemous words against the God of heaven; as it is written, HE OPENED HIS MOUTH IN BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD-Rev 13:6.
AND SHALL WEAR OUT (or oppress)
THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH. The saints will be pursued, persecuted, tormented, and killed.
AND THINK (or try)
TO CHANGE (the set)
TIMES. The Antichrist will seek to change the set times. Is this referring to a change in the established order of things, such as the dating of our calendar? Or could this be referring to God’s appointed times, the seven feasts? Would the Antichrist be seeking to somehow disrupt their fulfillment?
I know this isn't to me, but could you explain I wasn't here then....:)
They were mostly welcomed in the old days and somewhat entertaining. I know that eventually many were debunked by better posters. Don't know if the owner got rid of some or not.
ahhh well everything I am saying about the ICC and the UN I can prove. As far as it fulfilling prophecy as the world empire, I guess by the time I can prove that it'll be way too late....:) Where is there left to go now that we have a world justice system? Some say world leader, I don't know, I only know how powerful a world judge is. Thanks much for explaining.
The scariest part is we have 2-3 supreme court justices who think international law is a precedent for the US constitution. C-YA
:) yep....
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