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To: ET(end tyranny)

Daniel 7:25 It doesn't say will change times, it says, think to change times (try and fail) NO ONE can change God's times.
AND HE (the Antichrist)
SHALL SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST THE MOST HIGH. The Antichrist shall speak blasphemous words against the God of heaven; as it is written, HE OPENED HIS MOUTH IN BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD-Rev 13:6.
AND SHALL WEAR OUT (or oppress)
THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH. The saints will be pursued, persecuted, tormented, and killed.
AND THINK (or try)
TO CHANGE (the set)
TIMES. The Antichrist will seek to change the set times. Is this referring to a change in the established order of things, such as the dating of our calendar? Or could this be referring to God’s appointed times, the seven feasts? Would the Antichrist be seeking to somehow disrupt their fulfillment?


175 posted on 05/28/2005 12:58:18 PM PDT by stormyseas
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To: stormyseas
TIMES. The Antichrist will seek to change the set times. Is this referring to a change in the established order of things, such as the dating of our calendar? Or could this be referring to God’s appointed times,

My #158 addressed this. PLEASE show where my 158 is in error. Who changed YHWH's Law regarding the 4th Commandment? Who is the Gregorian calendar named for?

I'll help:

The Gregorian Calendar is a revision of the Julian Calendar which was instituted in a papal bull by Pope Gregory XIII in 1582. The reason for the calendar change was to correct for drift in the dates of signifigant religious observations, (primarily Easter/Astarte/Ishtar) and to prevent further drift in the dates.

The important effects of the change were:

Adoption of the new calendar was essentially immediate within Catholic countries. In the Protestant countries, where papal authority was neither recognized nor appreciated, adoption came more slowly.

More information on the Gregorian calendar.

From the Council of Nicea (325):(excerpted)

It was declared to be particularly unworthy for this, the holiest of all festivals, to follow the custom [the calculation] of the Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of crimes, and whose minds were blinded.

In rejecting their custom,(1) we may transmit to our descendants the legitimate mode of celebrating Easter, which we have observed from the time of the Saviour's Passion to the present day[according to the day of the week]. We ought not, therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews, for the Saviour has shown us another way; our worship follows a more legitimate and more convenient course (the order of the days of the week); and consequently, in unanimously adopting this mode, we desire, dearest brethren, to separate ourselves from the detestable company of the Jews, for it is truly shameful for us to hear them boast that without their direction we could not keep this feast. How can they be in the right, they who, after the death of the Saviour, have no longer been led by reason but by wild violence, as their delusion may urge them?

They do not possess the truth in this Easter question; for, in their blindness and repugnance to all improvements, they frequently celebrate two passovers in the same year. We could not imitate those who are openly in error. How, then, could we follow these Jews, who are most certainly blinded by error? for to celebrate the passover twice in one year is totally inadmissible. But even if this were not so, it would still be your duty not to tarnish your soul by communications with such wicked people[the Jews].

That's why the church needed to change the calendar, needed to do away with the Sabbath and started Sun-day worship, in 'honor of the venerable Sun'. Why they needed to distance themselves from Passover and celebrate Easter, a name derived from the pagan godess of fertility, widely known at the time.

The church has done nearly all it could to distance themselves from the root that they 'claim' to be grafted unto. Yet, it resembles nothing of the root anymore.

The part I want to specifically point out is this: for the Saviour has shown us another way;

An actual admission that the church has deviated from 'the way' and gone after 'another way'!! And to top it off, they give credit to Yehoshua for this 'new way'. The church admits that this 'other way' is more CONVENIENT!

182 posted on 05/28/2005 1:32:52 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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To: stormyseas
THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH. The saints will be pursued, persecuted, tormented, and killed. AND THINK (or try) TO CHANGE (the set)TIMES. The Antichrist will seek to change the set times.

Antichrists and their false doctrines have been around since the time of John.

1 John 4
2   Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3   And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist,
whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

The UN wasn't in the world back then, but the church was forming.

1 John 2
18   Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19   They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.


The antichrist and other antichrists were already around when John wrote his epistle.


John makes perfectly clear that
MANY antichrists had gone out FROM THEM (early believers) teaching false doctrine regarding Yehoshua.  These "antichrists," or usurpers of the true Messiah, were promoting doctrines that presented a Christ that was in place of or instead of the TRUE Messiah.  They were teaching a "replacement" Messiah.  

John was a Hebrew; therefore, it is probable that the "us" John refers to in 1 John 2:19 is likely his brethren that followed Yehoshua.

1 John 4

6   We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the
spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.


The "spirit of antichrist" is equated to a "spirit of error".  CLEARLY, antichrist represents an error - false teaching - that was (and IS) being spread.

Antichrist = erroneous doctrine.  Antichrist primarily represents a set of false teachings, not simply some future possible world religious/political figure, or something inserted under the skin.  Those accepting the error promoted by the "spirit of error" or "spirit of antichrist" are unintentional victims of the spirit of antichrist.


191 posted on 05/28/2005 1:49:49 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Pro 26:13 The sluggard saith: 'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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