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A Freeper Review of The Passion of Christ
Vanity | 2/21/04 | John Fields

Posted on 02/21/2004 3:50:43 PM PST by jonboy

I'm not sure where to start. I'm a fellow Freeper who also happens to be minister. I was invited today to see a screening of the Passion of the Christ at our local theater. I have been fascinated, and you might even be able to say obsessed with this movie ever since I heard about it a few months ago and first saw the trailer (I cried every time I saw it).

Given that I have watched and listened to several interviews and read several news stories about this movie I was as prepared as I thought I could be to watch it. I HAVE NEVER BEEN THROUGH ANYTHING LIKE THIS MOVIE! I sobbed, I throbbed, my Kleenex became a fairly useless mess that occupied the hand not tightly gripping the seat. IT WAS HARD TO WATCH. The cruelty was overwhelming, but approximated what we have a glimpse from in scripture. The violence and horror of what was done to Him nearly overwhelming, but not gratuitous as some have claimed.

As to the charges of anti-semitism, I can understand how a Jew who does not believe that Jesus is their Messiah would be frightened by this film. However, it was NOT anti-semitic. I could just as easily be moved to be against Italians for what the Romans did as I could be against the Jews. If one were inspired to hate the perpetrators if this event, they would be anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, anti-Arab, anti-Japanese, and anti-__________ (fill in your own blanks). I was filled with the grim overwhelming knowledge of my own guilt as much as anything else. As I watched Him writhing in pain, the ribs virtually exposed from the beating that He had taken, as I watched His shoulder ripped out of socket as they stretched his hand to make it to the pre-drilled nail hole, as I watched the blood flowing and the breath ripped from His body from the pain, one thing entered into my mind above all else. I PUT HIM THERE! He could have come down, He could have called in excess of ten-thousand angels. He could have stopped that horrible mockery and evil in its tracks by coming down off of that cross, healing His own wounds, and then saying go to it boys as He releases the angels to take care of business. BUT HE DIDN'T. I am in awe.

I admit that I has moments when I felt like ripping the Jewish and Roman perpetrators apart. How dare they laugh in the face of such agony! How dare they spit on Him! How dare they stand in pompous, arrogant, self-righteous judgment of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords (how dare MYSELF go on sinning after what He did for me)! But as the High Priest is walking away from making fun and mocking. He hears Jesus softly say, taking up precious breath, "Father forgive them, they don't know what they are doing." The High Priest pauses in uncomfortable silence, then walks on. Later, after Jesus has died and the earthquake has damaged the temple and they are very aware that they have done something terribly wrong the High Priest is seen crying out and holding his face in grief and horror.

This movie was about love and forgiveness and about our sin and what God and His Son did together about that sin. It is about the horrible things that men do to their fellow men which can still be forgiven if they will but repent. Some of the Jews were depraved and some were compassionate. Some of the Romans were depraved, and some of them were inclined towards compassion. Anti-Jewish? NO WAY! Besides, the early church was exlusively Jewish. The movie is not about Mel Gibson having some kind of point to prove to anyone, let alone the Jews. It was Mel's passion, a labor of love. Will it profit Him? Unbelievably! Did he do it for the money, not a chance.

Were there any liberties taken with the scripture? Maybe a few. Poetic/artistic license was taken to a degree. There were some scenes with Judas that were extra Biblical, but imaginable. Surprisingly, he was shown as a somewhat sympathetic character, which is something I've felt to a degree for him. I doubt that he was a completely depraved man, he just wanted to speed things along so that Jesus would have to rise to the throne and have to take His true place. When he realized he had been horribly mis-lead he admitted guilt but then went out and killed himself. There was a scene in which the unrepentant thief had his eyes pecked out by a crow. I thought that didn't gel well with the theme of forgiveness and should have been left out. It seemed to represent Divine retribution since the thief had just been blaspheming Jesus. But the cross wasn't about retribution, that will come later at Judgment, it was about mercy.

As to this movie being appropriate for children? That's a hard call. I think it would be best if conscientous parents screened it for themselves first. It is hard enough for mature adults to stomach. However, there is something to be said for exposing young tender hearts to the truth of what He did. Maybe knowing what He did at a younger age would lead to more mature Christians later. Again, it's an individual call.

Is this movie Catholic? Yes and no. Those who see the relationship between Jesus and Mary who are Catholic will likely see Mary as divine. Those of us who believe that Mary was a mere woman who was blessed enough to have been chosen to be the mother of the Christ will see the relationship between a mother and her Son. THIS MOVIE IS FOR ALL!!! I can wholeheartedly recommend this movie to others for personal devotion or to touch the hearts of those who are lost. I believe very much that it will be a culturally defining movie and that it will break most IF NOT ALL of the box office records both nationally and world-wide. The Lord will not be silenced. I truly feel He has spoken through this movie. Maybe its His way of saying WAKE UP before He comes again. If it is, this Christian is awake (wiping away tears).


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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...
ProLife Ping!

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361 posted on 02/22/2004 8:17:35 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: Miss Marple
It is important to understand that our sinfulness and our separation from God was a rule as absolute as the law of gravity. God had set up the rules, and Satan enticed man to break them. God used Jesus to defeat Satan and reclaim Man for His own.

Amen!

362 posted on 02/22/2004 8:17:37 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: what's up
Also, I sure would love a Catholic explaining where they get the Anunciation thing (where Mary is swept up into Heaven miraculously).

The Annuciation is the event whereby the Angel Gabriel Announced to Mary that she was highly favored of God and had been chosen to bear His divine Son. (Hail Mary full of grace...blessed are thou among woman).

363 posted on 02/22/2004 8:23:19 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Irene Adler
Me too, actually. I wonder if the authentic pronounciation can be known for certain, today?

Chaldean Catholics in Iraq today still speak Aramaic.

364 posted on 02/22/2004 8:28:13 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: savedbygrace
I won't accept the books of the Apochrypha as scripture, or as authoritative.

Nor was I asking you to.

As I stated in post 259, there are more books (chapters) that a man, King James (and his scholars), deleted in the KJV. But at one time they were part of what you do accept.

365 posted on 02/22/2004 8:34:13 AM PST by Budge (<>< .)
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To: jonboy
I haven't seem the movie yet, though it was advertised on TV but I have a question.

Why did they rate it "R"?

That's mean!

366 posted on 02/22/2004 8:36:00 AM PST by Pippin (God Bless America!)
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To: savedbygrace
Where in scripture does Elizabeth do this?

Luke 1:41-42...And it came to pass that, when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leapt in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with The Holy Ghost; and she spake out a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.

367 posted on 02/22/2004 8:37:23 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Aquinasfan; cpforlife.org; Ohioan from Florida; narses; pgkdan; Clintons a commie; padfoot_lover
 
Good morning brothers and sisters.   Thank you for sharing and charitably explaining our faith on this thread.  I hope you won't mind me offering an observation that I have made here, in this thread.   One two occassions I asked straightforward questions, and the responses had to be inferred by actions (read anti-Catholic "attacks").  If you should decide to persist in explaining a holy, Catholic position, I hope that you'll be mindful of today's Gospel, and successful in turning the other cheek.  God Bless, and FReegards!
question 1
question 2
368 posted on 02/22/2004 8:41:02 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: Pippin
Why did they rate it "R"?

Hi Pippin.   I saw Mel Gibson talk about the rating of the film and he said that the movie would be too difficult for any child under 12 (and even then, an older teen may not be "equipped" for it).   Anything lower than an R, I think would be a disservice to parents.
369 posted on 02/22/2004 8:44:58 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: pgkdan
Elizabeth was speaking to Mary while she was still alive on the earth, before she had died. My question remains unanswered.
370 posted on 02/22/2004 8:46:44 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Miss Marple
I believe this film has been sent by God...

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I agree with this and with your other remarks. I, too, plan to see this film even though I can't stand to watch graphic violence. I see it as my duty to watch the graphic violence that my guilt as a sinner has thrust upon my Savior.
371 posted on 02/22/2004 8:48:08 AM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: GirlShortstop
Oh, kinda thought so.

But I itend to go see it, BTW, it will the the first R rated movie I go to see. because no matter hoe graphic and voilent it might be, the Gosples and the life of our Lord Jesus Christ is never an R rated story for me.

BTW, "GirlShortstop"?

you play baseball?

372 posted on 02/22/2004 8:49:37 AM PST by Pippin (God Bless America!)
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To: GirlShortstop
If you should decide to persist in explaining a holy, Catholic position, I hope that you'll be mindful of today's Gospel, and successful in turning the other cheek. God Bless, and FReegards!

I've read the correspondence btwn you and others and the the person you describe. I've posted a reply or two myself but will post no more because I see now that this is largely a waste of time. This poster has set his or her self up as the ultimate earthly authority as to what is and isn't authentically Christian and scripturally accurate. They willfully ignore that Catholic Sacred Tradition predates the Gospels by several hundred years.

373 posted on 02/22/2004 8:55:55 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Yaelle
Thank you all for your explanations.

You're welcome. Thank you for your sincere questions.

BTW Yaelle, you hold a special significance for me in that my first post on Free Republic was to you. Who would have thought it would be a couple of thousand posts later that I'd make my second, and now my third.

Best FRegards,
Barnacle

374 posted on 02/22/2004 9:17:57 AM PST by Barnacle (And you can quote me on that)
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To: pgkdan
They willfully ignore that Catholic Sacred Tradition predates the Gospels by several hundred years.

I fully appreciate your points, and acknowledge your facts; we're in agreement.   Thanks so much for your reply.   FReegards.
375 posted on 02/22/2004 9:23:55 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: jonboy
"...after His death Satan was NOT a happy camper."

Understatement of the eons.

376 posted on 02/22/2004 10:13:55 AM PST by madison10
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To: pgkdan
Those who see the relationship between Jesus and Mary who are Catholic will likely see Mary as divine.

Thanks for the review...but for the gazillionth time...CATHOLICS DO NOT BELIEVE THAT MARY IS DIVINE!!!!!

WE GOT IT!! Catholics SAY they don't believe Mary is divine, but they ACT like she is divine.

377 posted on 02/22/2004 10:18:52 AM PST by madison10
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To: pgkdan
Don't you think he meant the Assumption?
378 posted on 02/22/2004 11:18:18 AM PST by secret garden (Go Predators! Go Spurs!)
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To: madison10; pgkdan
WE GOT IT!! Catholics SAY they don't believe Mary is divine, but they ACT like she is divine.

You really ought to consider getting off your high horse, and dropping your ridiculous innuendos.
379 posted on 02/22/2004 11:49:17 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: secret garden; DoctorMichael
I have not seen it but will see it tonight. I'm really looking forward to it.
380 posted on 02/22/2004 12:09:01 PM PST by BlueAngel
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