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BRIT-AM LIST OF PROOFS CONCERNING THE LOST TEN TRIBES BIBLICAL The exiled Israelites were to become one of the most numerous groups of people on earth (Genesis 15:5 22:17 24:60 32:12 Numbers 23:10 Deuteronomy 1:11 Isaiah 10:22 24:16 26:15 Hosea 1:10); to be the most powerful (Genesis 27:9 Numbers 24:7 Michah 5:7-9), to be the richest, to possess the most mineral and agricultural resources (Genesis 27:28 49:25 Deuteronomy 33:13-16 Hosea 2:8), to live in the best places (Isaiah 41:8-9), to be in islands (Isaiah 42:4 49:1-6 Jeremiah 31:9-10), peninsulas (Jeremiah 31:8), and at continental extremities (Deuteronomy 33:13 Isaiah 24:16 26:15 41:8-9 49:6), to be sea-farers (Isaiah 42;6), to gain control over strategic points regarding their potential adversaries (Genesis 22:16-17 24:60), to be like a lion, unicorn (Numbers 24:8-9), and bald-headed eagle (Micah 1:16). They were also to be largely unaware of their Israelite identity and to practice a non-Jewish religion (Hosea 2:8, 2:13, 2:16 11:12). Judah at first would not know who they were (Isaiah 49;21). Scripture gives numerous other identifying characteristics that taken as a whole can only fit one group of peoples.
1. Ends of the Earth: Deuteronomy 33:13 on, Isaiah 24:16, 26:15, 41:8-9 43;6 49:6 2. Bald-Headed Eagle Micah 1:16 3. Isles Isaiah 24;15 49:6 60:9 Jeremiah 31; 9-10 4. Cyrus: Messiah son of Joseph see Josephby Yair Davidiy, Isaiah (44:28) 5. Thighs, Peninsulas, and Coasts: Jeremiah 31:8 6. Brit-Am Isaiah 42:6 49:8 Covenant of the People 7. Tarshish Isaiah 60;9 8. Seafarers Isaiah 42:10 9. Rule Over Peoples Genesis 27:29 48:19 MULTITUDE OF NATIONS (Malo HaGoyim), Psalms 47:3 10. Be the Dominant World Power (Balak, Ephraim): Numbers 24:7-9 Micah 5:7-9 11. Military Power: Deuteronomy 33:27 33:29 Jeremiah 51:20-21 (battle-ax) Zechariah 10:7 12. Defeat Edom (Germany and Europe) Ezekiel 25:14 Obadiah 1:18 13. Light for the Gentiles Genesis 12:2-3, 18:18-19, 22:18 24:4 Isaiah 42:1 42:6 Amos 6;15 14. Separate from Judah. Isaiah 11:12-13 49:21 15. Not known to Judah Isaiah 49:13-14, 21. Hosea chapter one: Judah excepted 1:7 16. Numerous: Genesis 15:5, 22:17, 24:60, 32:12, Numbers 23:10, Isaiah 10:22, 24:16, 26:15 Hosea 1:10 17. West Isaiah 24:14 (sea in Hebrew is yammeaning west); Hosea 11:10 18. Northwest Isaiah 49:12 19. North Jeremiah 3;18 31; 6-10 20. Agricultural Plenty Genesis 27:28 49:25 Deuteronomy 33:13-16 Hoshea 2:8 21. Mineral Resources Genesis 49:25 Deuteronomy 33:13, 15 22. Australia (Sinim, Codes) Isaiah 49:8 23. Best Places (Atziliyah) Isaiah 41: 9 24. Christianity Hosea 2:8, 2:13, 2:16 11:12 Notsrim (see our book Ephraim) 25. Fires in the Isles referring to Celtic Britain Isaiah 24:15 26. GATE(s) OF YOUR ENEMIES Genesis 22:17 24:60 27. John Bull Deuteronomy 33:17 Jeremiah 31:18 Aegel 28. Nobility Ephraim Jeremiah 31:20 29.Representative Democracy Manasseh Genesis 41:51 30. Dolmens: Jeremiah 31:21 31, 32, 33. Cush, Egypt, Chains See no.4 Cyrus Isaiah 44:28 also Isaiah 43:3 45:14 34: Zarephath Obadiah 1:20 35: Alcoholic Drunkards Isaiah 28:1, 3 36. Ruled by Sons of David Jeremiah 33:22, 26 37. Kings Genesis 17:6, 16, 35:11 38. Many Waters Numbers 24:7 39. Gomer Hosea chapter one 40. The name Hebrew: Genesis 14:13 Genesis 14:13 (on Joseph) 39:17 40:15 41:12 43:32 Jonah 1:9 41-111. Seventy Tribal and Clan Names 112. Jacob: Isaiah 49:6 Tribes of Jacob: Union Jack, Yankee, King James 113. Lion and Unicorn Numbers 24:7-9
Points to Note: The Bible says that towards the End Times the Lost Tribes will return and re-unite with Judah (Isaiah 11:12-13 Ezekiel 37) . There will be no complete Redemption for Judah without the return of the Ten Tribes (Ezekiel 16:53, 55, 61). Judah will be obligated to go unto the Ten Tribes and bring them back (Jeremiah 3:18 31:8). The Ten Tribes are also called upon to seek their God and their ancestry (Jeremiah 31:9-10, 21) and affirm it. Ezekiel (11:18) hints that first the exiles will return to the Land of Israel and after that they shall put away their idols and keep the Law (Ezekiel 11:20). The complete return of Judah is dependent upon the return of Samaria (Ezekiel 16:53, 55, 61) meaning the Ten Tribes especially Manasseh of the USA. God will renew His covenant with Judah and with Israel (Ezekiel 16:62). Part of Judah will return to the Land and begin to build it up. Then the Lost Ten Tribes will return in two stages together with the remnant of Judah (Isaiah 56:8 and Hosea chapter six, see "Ephraim" by Yair Davidiy). Identity Lost: Hosea (chapter one) predicted that the Lost Ten Tribes would be considered non-Israelites and (Hosea 7:8 Isaiah 11:11 49:21 ) distinct from Judah: Census lists of Ezra and Nehemiah do not mention anyone from the Ten Tribes amongst Judah. Their religious Membership was Suspended: Jeremiah 3:8 (divorced, cf. Yebamot 17), Hosea 1:9. They would combined with Gomer (Hosea ch.1) but later Re-Unite with Judah (Hosea 3;18 Isaiah 11:11). In the Last Days they will Return by Aeroplanes (Isaiah 60:8). Initially they will not be accepted by Judah (Isaiah 49;21). Both Judah and Joseph will seek God in the Last Days (Jeremiah 50:4). Ephraim will return to Bashan and Gilead (Micah 7:14) meaning Syria and Lebanon (Zechariah 10:10). The Lost Ten Tribes are exhorted to take heed of historical and archaeological evidence concerning their origins and to return to their cities in Samaria (Jeremiah 31:12).
B. RABBINICAL PROOF 1. Commentators (Rashi, Iben Exzra, Radak, Nachmanidres, Abarbanel) on Obadiah 1:20 indicate that the Lost Tribes settled in the West. 2. Mashiach ben Yoseph: Traditions spoke of a future Anointed Leader who would lead the Lost Tribes in the Last days and who also epitomized and culminated a process of support for Judah and ingathering the Jews to Israel. This description is only applicable historically to Britain and the USA. 3. Midrashim and Rabbinical sources also interpreted the texts the same way as Brit-Am has done. Our interpretations of the Biblical Text according to its literal meaning prove Brit-Am Identifications. 4. Hebrew Meanings of Names and Tribal Characteristics in the light of Rabbinical Commentary confirmed Brit-Am Identifications, e.g. Machir first born son of Manasseh gave his name to America. Machir means Capitalism. Manasseh means Responsible Representations, Ephraim means Aristocracy. 5. Jewish Philosophy: Helps explain the separate roles of Judah and Joseph.
C. HISTORY: (1). Movement by Sea: A portion of the Hebrew Exiles was transported overseas in Phoenician and Philistine ships working for the Assyrians. They were taken to Spain, Gaul, and Britain. Those taken to Spain later moved northward into Gaul or crossed over to Britain and Ireland. (2). Movement by Land Northward: Ca.740-720 BCE: The Assyrians moved masses of Northern Israelites to Northern Mesopotamia and to Hara in eastern Iran where they became identified with Cimmerians, Scyths, and Goths. (3). Cimmerians to Europe and Galatian-Gaul: Ca. 640 BCE: The first waves of Cimmerians via the Anatolian Bosporos (Turkey) were driven into the European Balkans whence they made their way west to Gaul and Britain becoming identified as Celts and Galatians. The Galatians were identifiable in Europe with both part of the Celts and Belgae and with early groups in Germany. (4) Scythian Movements to Europe: Ca. 550 BCE to ca. 500 CE. The Scythians moved from the Middle East to north of the Caucasus. They then moved in stages westward into Europe and the British Isles. (5). The Khazars: They belonged to the Lost Ten Tribes and a portion of them converted to Judaism. (6) From Europe to North America: Apart from the British Isles and the West members of the Lost Israelite were scattered throughout Europe including Germany. These groups had often remained separate from their non-Israelite neighbors and later moved en masse to North America and similar regions. (7) Judah: Descendants of Jews who had been forced to become Gentiles are to be found in many regions and will also return with the Lost Ten Tribes.
D. OTHER FIELDS OF EVIDENCE: Proofs that Brit-Am is correct are also available from (a) the study of linguistics: Western Celtic is Semitic in structure, Germanic tongues, especially English have a strong Hebraic component, etc; (b) Hebraic type culture, (c) comparative religion, (d) self-identification as the Chosen People of Israel; (e) Contemporary affairs: (f) relative degrees of anti-Semitism and philo-Semitism; and several other fields.
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Ephraim aka House of Joseph is the younger brother. AKA "double ash heap":
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By this (exile and captivity) therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be atoned. It is worth noting that Isaiah here indicates that the exile would serve as an atonement for the sins of the people. Such an idea of atonement for sins might come as a surprise to those used to thinking in Christian terms only.
Fortunately, YHVH's plan does not end with punishment and abandonment of His people, Israel. Jeremiah 31 starts out with the hopeful declaration of the LORD, Himself, "At that time (that is, "in the latter days," see Jeremiah 30-24)...I will be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be My people."
Jeremiah 31:1
At the same time, saith the LORD, will I be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people.
YHVH promises the descendants of Israel (who, through captivity, exile, and intermarriage with Gentiles became assimilated and inculturated Gentiles today) that they will find "grace in the wilderness" (verse 2).
2 Thus saith the LORD, The people which were left of the sword found grace in the wilderness; even Israel, when I went to cause him to rest.
Followed by the most moving promise of all, "I have loved you with an everlasting love" (verse 3).
3 The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.
It would be a mistake, at this point, to assume that these promises are made only to the House of Judah, the Jewish people; on the contrary, read closely verses 5, 6, and 9b:
5 Thou shalt yet plant vines upon the mountains of Samaria: the planters shall plant, and shall eat them as common things.
6 For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God.
9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
These clear statements, made by the LORD, identify the primary audience. It was the Northern Ten Tribes who occupied Samaria/the hill country of Ephraim anciently, and who are prophesied to do so again.
These Ten Northern Tribes, who are frequently referred to in Scripture collectively as Ephraim, are called the LORD'S "first-born" (possibly an allusion to Genesis 48:14-20 and I Chronicles 5:1).
Genesis 48
14 And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
15 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day,
16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.
18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
20 And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.
1 Chronicles 5
1 Now the sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel, (for he was the firstborn; but forasmuch as he defiled his father's bed, his birthright was given unto the sons of Joseph the son of Israel: and the genealogy is not to be reckoned after the birthright.
The word of YHVH to the descendants of Ephraim, the Northern Ten Tribes, is:
8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.
And again, stated even more emphatically in verse 10:
10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.
Notice the interesting wording here. These declarations are made to the "coasts of the earth, and isles afar off," and the descendants of Israel are to be gathered from the remote parts of the earth. These locations certainly lend evidence to current efforts to identify the descendants of the Ten Tribes with the Northwest European peoples and their colonies (America).
Proceeding to the next major section of Jeremiah 31, we encounter the passage:
15 Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rachel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.
According to the historical books of the Bible, the Jewish people are primarily composed of descendants of the Tribes of Judah and Levi, and to a lesser extent Benjamin. Judah and Levi are the children of Leah, not of Rachel (Gen. 29:32-35). And while Benjamin was Rachel's son, she never got the chance to know him, as she died during his birth (Gen. 35:16-19).
But Rachel did give Jacob a son, whom Jacob loved very dearly, Joseph (Gen. 37:3).
It is this son, Joseph and his children [Joseph remember had two sons….Manessah and Ephraim] whose descendants were taken in the Assyrian captivity and never returned to their land or their faith that Rachel is weeping over in Jeremiah 31:15.
16 Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
What children are these?
17 And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border.
18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the LORD my God.
19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.
20 Is Ephraim my dear son? is he a pleasant child? for since I spake against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the LORD.
It is clear that it is The House of Israel/Ephraim/the Northern Ten Tribes which through intermarriage is melted into the Gentile gene pool of the world which is being referred to here, not the House of Judah/the Jews. If anyone is tempted to think that the term Ephraim is being employed here in a generic way to address all Israel, just glance down to verses 23, 24, and 27, where Judah is treated as distinct from Ephraim/the House of Israel.
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Is this "new covenant" made with the Christian Gentile Church or with descendants of the Tribes of Jacob of the House of Judah and Ephraim (comprising the Ten Northern Tribes of Jacob)?
Let's say that you, as the Christian, are Ephraim and this prophecy applies to the Christian Church, then according to the timing of when God will make this "new covenant", can you say that this New Covenant is already made and existing because the Christians have been restored to the land of Israel and their ancestor's faith, or does most of Christianity today lay outside the land of Israel and have a belief system quite opposite to the Jewish Church of Jerusalem?
Note that this new covenant is not made with the Gentiles; neither is it made solely with the house of Judah, the Jews. Rather, it is a future promise that is guaranteed to the Jews and to their brothers, the descendants of Joseph/Ephraim (Yehoshua called these the "lost sheep of the House of Israel [Ephraim])
Was YHVH talking through Jeremiah the Prophet to Baptists, Methodists, Catholics today, or was YHVH speaking through Jeremiah to the House of Judah (Jews of the Tribe of Judah and Benjamin) and the House of Israel (consisting of the Ten other Tribes of Jacob)?
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
YHVH doesn't lie.
Could these promises be taken away from the physical descendants of Jacob/Israel and given instead to a group of Gentiles calling themselves "Christians" who reject the Laws of God let alone His appointed times such as Biblical Festivals and Sabbaths?
Are you grafted into Israel as Paul stated in Romans, or are you grated into a Gentile organization built upon Replacement Theology given to you by the early Gentile Catholic Church?
Matthew 10
5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Do you observe the Festivals and Sabbaths of YHVH and of Israel, or do you observe pagan holidays that have had Yehoshua's name affixed to them and have taken the place of what is commanded in Scripture?
Have you substituted the "day of the sun" (Sunday) for the Sabbath?
Are you, as Gentile Godfearers grafted into Israel, in fact part of Israel and the people of YHVH or have you apostatized from truth, and practice a mixture of truth and error in Christianity as it stands today?
Is the "New Covenant" really NEW at all?
covenant from the Hebrew
1285 briyth ber-eeth' from 1262 (in the sense of cutting (like 1254)); a compact (because made by passing between pieces of flesh):--confederacy, (con-)feder(-ate), covenant, league.
1) covenant, alliance, pledge
a) between men
1) treaty, alliance, league (man to man)
2) constitution, ordinance (monarch to subjects)
3) agreement, pledge (man to man)
4) alliance (of friendship)
5) alliance (of marriage)
b) between God and man
1) alliance (of friendship)
2) covenant (divine ordinance with signs or pledges)
2) (phrases)
a) covenant making
b) covenant keeping
c) covenant violation
testament and covenant both bring up 1242 from the Greek
1242 diatheke dee-ath-ay'-kay from 1303; properly, a disposition, i.e. (specially) a contract (especially a devisory will):--covenant, testament.
1) a disposition, arrangement, of any sort, which one wishes to be valid, the last disposition which one makes of his earthly possessions after his death, a testament or will
2) a compact, a covenant, a testament
a) God's covenant with Noah, etc.
Notice it does NOT say the church!
Do the actual words in the Greek Scriptures show us that a "testament" is made between YHVH and the Church? NOPE!
It does mention the covenant with Noah though.....
Hebrews 8
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Hebrews 8:10 says: "For THIS the covenant," and then quotes from Jer. 31:33.
Hebrews 8
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
this from the Greek
3778 houtos hoo'-tos, including nominative masculine plural houtoi hoo'-toy, nominative feminine singular haute how'-tay, and nominative feminine plural hautai how'-tahee from the article 3588 and 846; the he (she or it), i.e. this or that (often with article repeated):--he (it was that), hereof, it, she, such as, the same, these, they, this (man, same, woman), which, who.
1) this, these, etc.
846 autos ow-tos' from the particle au (perhaps akin to the base of 109 through the idea of a baffling wind) (backward); the reflexive pronoun self, used (alone or in the comparative 1438) of the third person , and (with the proper personal pronoun) of the other persons:--her, it(-self), one, the other, (mine) own, said, (self-), the) same, ((him-, my-, thy- )self, (your-)selves, she, that, their(-s), them(-selves), there(-at, - by, -in, -into, -of, -on, -with), they, (these) things, this (man), those, together, very, which.
1) himself, herself, themselves, itself
2) he, she, it
3) the same
In other words, "this---same" covenant, as was spoken by Jeremiah has now been RENEWED .... NOT REPLACED! THE SAME COVENANT, WITH ITS LAWS AND COMMANDMENTS WHICH ARE ITS COVENANT STIPULATIONS.
How do Gentiles, who once were aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, who had no hope, and were without YHVH in the world according to Eph. 2:12 to become part of this "New/Same Covenant" of Jeremiah spoken about in the New Testament? By being grafted into Israel and the faith of Israel which practices Sabbaths and Festivals, or by becoming members of various denominations and non-denominations which reject YHVH's Biblical Feasts, Festivals, and Sabbaths?
Are you "in the faith" or just have "a" faith about something which YHVH never gave mankind?
Jeremiah 31 states that the day will come when this "RENEWED" covenant will be made with "whom"? Israel and Judah? Or with Judah and the church which rejects the faith of Judah?
The answer to that question is "Israel and Judah". Israel being understood as Ephraim who today are dispersed Gentiles worldwide who can trace their Jewish Roots all the way back to the Assyrian Captivity and whom reject paganism and paganized religious practices, (the very reason Ephraim was taken captive in the first place).
This "New" testament is often used to refer to acollection of books written by the Apostles. It isn't. The collection of books commonly known as the New Testament has unfortunately replaced the Bible Yehoshua used and which the early church took to the Gentiles for almost 400 years before the Catholic Church created a document to establish their validity for doctrines which they taught that were often contradicted by the Torah and Tanakh (the Bible Yehoshua used and which was taken to the Gentiles in the Great Commission).
As shown above, the "New Testament/Covenant" is not NEW at all, but is a RENEWAL of the Old Testament/Covenant.
A covenant, or testament, is a contract between two parties. Webster's unabridged dictionary defines "testament" this way: "In law, a writing, under seal, containing the terms of agreement or contract between parties..."
Because this is a legal document and has an impact on our lives, we certainly should be intimately familiar with what the terms of this covenant are. The collections of writings that we call the New Testament have been much too vague about the terms of this agreement. Since most of the writings of the New Testament do not contain the terms of thi covenant, it would be poor scholarship to refer to this collection of Apostolic Writings as the "New Testament," especially since there is no 'new' testament, but a RENEWAL of the Old Testament.
Acts 15
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
And even this reference to the agreement, is much too vague.
Secondly, the Tanakh clearly teaches that a remnant of the Northern Kingdom returned to Israel twice-- the first time during the Passover of Hezekiah, and the second time during the reign of Josiah. So a remnant of each tribe survived and collassed into Judah, becoming "Jews." To this day, there are Jews (albeit not many of them) with traditions that stem from specific tribes
Thirdly, many of the lost Jews from other tribes have returned in the modern era. For example, Rabbinic tradition identifies the Ethiopian Jews with the Tribe of Dan. Similarly, the Bene Mennasseh (Children of Mennasseh) have returned in small numbers to Israel from their exile in Nepal/India. And, let us not forget the tiny Samaratians, who exist as a continuous link to the Northern Kingdom.
The Prophets stress frequently that a "remnant" will return. That was accomplished in the days of Hezekiah and Josiah, to say nothing of the modern era. The prophets also stress that Israel will be unified, with no division between Judah and Israel. With the coallessing of the 12 Tribes into "Jews," this too has been accomplished. Prophesy requires nothing more. (Likewise, the prophesy concerning the final defeat of Edom was accomplished during the days of the Maccabees-- when the Edomites were conquered and forcibly converted into Judaism, eternalizing Esau's submission to Jacob).
Thirdly, British Israelism is patently ridiculous. The United States derives from immigrants from every country on earth. To suggest that every immigrant happened to be part of Ephraim and Menasseh stretches credibility. Not to mention that there is no genetic relationship between Brits and Jews, nor any linguistic relationship between Hebrew and English, nor any cultural relationship.
Prophesy could be read to suggest that, possibly, All Israel will return in the End Days. Jews Tradition records that, if this happens (it's debated), it will happen in a perfectly logical manner-- the Prophet Elijah will return to "return the hearts of the children to their parents, and their parents to their children"-- i.e., to identify "hidden" Israelities spread among the nations, and instruct them as to their true heritage. This would also include lost members of Judah-- such as the descendants of Jews who assimilated in Babylonia or converted by force in Spain. It would hardly be something Anglo-specific.
Agreed. It's simply a replacement theology whereby the adherent grabs God's promise of a land flowing with milk and honey, while conveniently ignoring the consequences for unbelief. Ironically, then, British Israelism may be correct... correct in that these folks are lost (and deserving of wrath) due to whoring after other gods: ufos, crop circles, Diana, etc. Heh.
The United States derives from immigrants from every country on earth. To suggest that every immigrant happened to be part of Ephraim and Menasseh stretches credibility. Not to mention that there is no genetic relationship between Brits and Jews, nor any linguistic relationship between Hebrew and English, nor any cultural relationship.
every country on earth, IOW, a people scattered among the nations and then regathered into their own country. Kind of like modern Israel, except they know not their hertitage. Hence the complete lack of language and cultural bonds. "Israeli" and "American",do not denote races. Not all US immigrants are of Ephraim, nor are all Israelis Jewish, nor do all Jews reside in Israel. Nonetheless, as the State of Israel represents the house of Judah regathered, America represents the House of Joseph regathered. God will sort everybody out one way or the other, separating out the children of Sarah, perhaps as they were ID'd, when marked by the blood on the doors in Egypt. Or with a sign on their hands and memorial between their eyes, as it were, that the Lord's Law may be in their mouth.
Prophesy could be read to suggest that, possibly, All Israel will return in the End Days. Jews Tradition records that, if this happens (it's debated), it will happen in a perfectly logical manner-- the Prophet Elijah will return to "return the hearts of the children to their parents, and their parents to their children"-- i.e., to identify "hidden" Israelities spread among the nations, and instruct them as to their true heritage. This would also include lost members of Judah-- such as the descendants of Jews who assimilated in Babylonia or converted by force in Spain. It would hardly be something Anglo-specific.
Exactly.
Jeremiah 3:17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.
Jeremiah 3:18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.
IMO, something momentous (catastrophic?) will happen, as a mighty hand, which will drive the remnant of Judah and Israel home. And soon. Many have already fled spiritual Babylon, the shining tower er city on the hill, and are waiting in faith for the promise to be fulfilled.
Exactly! That YHVH's LAW may be in their mouth and between their eyes. (In their mind. Thoughts. Belief system.)
PS. Good to see you! :)
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