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Rush a 'Little Frustrated' by Drug Allegations
fox ^ | 10-03-03

Posted on 10/03/2003 11:02:13 AM PDT by hoosierskypilot

Political commentator Rush Limbaugh (search) returned to his popular radio program Friday and said he was "frustrated" about allegations that he was involved in the sale and use of illegal drugs.

Limbaugh was back on the air one day after his name surfaced as the possible target of a criminal probe into the sale and use of illegal drugs in south Florida.

On the national program, which is carried by about 650 stations across the country, Limbaugh spoke briefly about the allegations of his drug use but avoided going into specifics. He said he was "a little frustrated" that he had not "gotten to the bottom" of what was happening.

"The story in Florida really is an emerging situation ... I don't really know the full scope of what I'm dealing with," he said. Limbaugh said he'd been humbled by all the supportive e-mails he'd received from fans, estimating he'd received about 25,000.

As for all the media stories that have emerged about the drug investigation, Limbaugh said that he was "tempted" to respond to them but "I'm not going to go there."

But he vowed to discuss the case in detail in the future.

"Rest assured, I will discuss this with you and tell you how it is ... maybe more than you really want to know about this," he said.

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To: All
OK I know I don't post here much and might get blasted for saying this by some but here it goes anyways.

We all know what Rush has done for us over the years and to be frank about it it's more then any other Conservative/Republican has in the past or present ever done for our party. In fact I don't think we would be where we are today if it wasn't for him.

We are all worried about where this is going as I believe all of you are as well. That being said I have noticed a lot of people getting upset and some even beating up on Rush before we know all the facts involved. So please stop for a minute, catch your breath, and really think about this for a minute.

Rush has been here for us for a very long time and has been kicked, prodded, and made out to be a villain by many people over the years defending all that we believe in. Sure he has made a lot of money in doing so but that is capitalism at it's best, but he has never given up fighting for us.

How many of you here can say you would have the guts to go out there day in and day out like he does knowing you have the political hacks on the left inspecting every minute aspect of your life just to bring you down in flames for the sheer joy of it? I would venture to say there are a few here who would but a lot more would not want to take the chance of having their entire life come under a microscope.

Now I am asking a favor of all of you to please just wait until we know what is going on before passing judgment on Rush. We are not a party of attack dogs who eat their own when one has apparently fallen or in this case has had allegations he has fallen. Let's do what a family should do when something like this happens, let him know your there for him, support him, and whatever comes of this deal with it when we know the facts.

He has given us a lot and now is not the time to attack, run away, or question our loyalty to Rush. Until we know the facts fully these allegations are just that allegations. I have never deserted a friend in need and right now folks Rush needs his friends and I believe he considers all of us as friends if not family.

Final point of this matter. In the past few weeks a lot of bad things have been coming our way and the democrats are taking us apart little by little. I believe in one way or another this is all done to serve one purpose and that is to try and bring a level of in-fighting to this party so we are blinded while they steal points away from us in the ring of American ideals. So stay strong, stand by Rush, and let's keep our heads together instead of trying to prove who's more conservative then the next guy.

We are all part of the Republican party here so let's keep that in mind, either we do that are we will not only lose the Presidency but we will also lose our dignity as well.
321 posted on 10/03/2003 9:51:52 PM PDT by RepublicanArmy (God bless our Troops, Our President, & God Bless America!!!)
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To: Nov3
NOV3 WROTE: "Joe it is obvious he is either guilty as sin or is setting up the enquirer for the lawsuit of the century. I'd be the house on the former."

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it were the latter. OR maybe he is waiting to quash it until AFTER the Oct. 7 election. That way, RUSH is still the issue and Davis and Bustamante can't make any headway against Arnold OR Tom, causing the LOSS of both Davis and Bustamante.

It is also not a bad idea to wait until whatever claims or charges are fully stated so you can properly defend yourself, no matter whether they are true or false.

322 posted on 10/03/2003 10:05:34 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: RepublicanArmy
Im with you. It has always been Rush who has been in the front lines of this fight. We need to support him and give him the room he needs to fight this.
323 posted on 10/03/2003 10:06:13 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
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To: MrLeRoy
[He has probably been told by his attorney's not to discuss this until all the facts are out there.]

Then why hasn't he said so?

Because even *that* can be spun to sound bad.

For example, just look at how many people on these threads have declared, "if he hired a defense lawyer, it must be because he's guilty". The news media can play that same game, endlessly playing soundbites of Rush saying on his show, "my lawyer tells me...", which sounds bad enough by itself, and even worse when it's used as an excuse for CNN et al to follow it with panels of "legal experts" saying, "well, my advice for how Limbaugh could avoid a long prison term would be..."

Truly, it's best to not feed the jackals more raw meat.

324 posted on 10/03/2003 10:17:15 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: OldFriend
OLDFRIEND WROTE: "Rush used the phrase.....trust me...That is enough for me.....and I am definitely not known as a Rush-bot."

I agree with YOU. By Rush saying "trust me," I think HE was on the RIGHT side...on the RIGHT as usual. He sounded CONFIDENT (NOT arrogant) that he KNOWS it is going to turn out okay.

I wonder if Rush was used by the Police to be part of a STING of OTHERS, not him. They would have needed to have the "illegal drugs" go to/through someone who people would have KNOWN had plenty of money to afford to buy them and apparently had a "NEED" for them.

OR maybe RUSH contacted the Police after his housekeeper BRAGGED about having access to "illegal drugs" and OFFERED HIM drugs and he WILLINGLY "played the part" in order to STING the bad guys. Wouldn't it just be FUNNY if the drug-dealers were PROMINENT RATS that end up getting caught through Rush's COOPERATION!!!

I just DO NOT believe that Rush is either a drug dealer or illegal drug user...PERIOD!

325 posted on 10/03/2003 10:19:15 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: spectre
RUSH SAID: "Rest assured, I will discuss this with you and tell you how it is ... maybe more than you really want to know about this," he said.

SPECTRE RESPONDED: "Could this mean that when Rush ultimately finds out exactly who is behind this smear campaign, it will open up a Pandora's box that the public may not want to hear about? That's my translation of what he is trying to tell us."

SPECTRE ADDED: "It isn't going to be pretty, when Rush exposes the truth behind this story, IMHO."

I am beginning to think it is NOT REALLY a SMEAR campaign against RUSH, but that it is being made out to LOOK that way, in order to STING some really PROMINENT figures or halt a HUGE drug ring.

Rush just sounded too confident/assured (but NOT arrogant) to make me think HE did anything wrong. It seemed like he was "playing dumb" to buy time for the whole STING to come to fruition.

326 posted on 10/03/2003 10:26:37 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: Nov3
[i.e. here is not himself implicated in the investigation.]

Drink the Kool-Aid dude! How did he get in it? The sherrifs department came on him while investigating a drug ring.

Did it never occur to you that if his housekeeper (or her sleazy husband) was running drugs for *other* people, Limbaugh would naturally be interested in whether he might have seen or heard anything that, in retrospect, might be helpful to the investigation?

Furthermore, her "Limbaugh was one of my clients!" claim may well be an attempt by her to get herself off the hook by giving them a "bigger fish", whether or not he actually had done anything wrong. This is a problem the police run into all the time -- they catch a sleazebag in a crime, and the sleazebag makes up a semi-plausible story about someone "bigger" to trade for leniancy. In this case, the fact that the woman was Limbaugh's housekeeper makes her story plausible, *even if it's not true*.

There are so many possibilities you have utterly failed to even consider.

327 posted on 10/03/2003 10:26:43 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: birbear
BIRBEAR WROTE: "I've noticed over the past few years that he seemed kind of slow on understanding some of his callers points. I attributed it to just getting older and his brain just being filled with too much information."

Are you aware that he suddenly lost virtually all of his hearing some time back and had to have a cochlear (sp?) implant? The implant is NOT failsafe and it still takes a split second or two for him to understand what someone has just said so he can respond to it.

My Mom has been hard of hearing all my life (she is basically deaf without her hearing aids) and from time to time, she will THINK you asked one thing when you ACTUALLY asked something else, or she may not hear you at all, resulting in a long pause. It can lead to some strange answers. It usually happens when her batteries run out of juice.

328 posted on 10/03/2003 10:38:38 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: Joe Hadenuf
It would be short and sweet, something like this: "I am conpletely innocent of the publicly made allegations, I don't use illegally obtained drugs, nor do I obtain drugs illegally".

Then, if the press digs up some guy from twenty years ago who says, "I remember once when we were on a fishing trip, Rush sprained his ankle pretty bad so I gave him one of my prescription painkillers I had for my back", you've just been proven a "liar", the press spends the next week speculating about how much of the rest of your denial was a calculated lie, etc. etc. Congratulations, Einstein.

329 posted on 10/03/2003 10:38:54 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Belial
No, this doesn't make a lot of sense. Why don't you illustrate your point with a real world example of an innocent man getting in trouble for denying false charges?

From another thread, a post by Freeper CMAC51:

Because even if Rush is totally innocent, this whole business is a serious matter. Only a fool wood start making statements when even the smallest detail in the statement can be questioned and perhaps used to challenge the credability of the overall statement.

I have been there, roped into a situation I had no idea existed. Some of my most forthright statements at the time created the most trouble because I didn't know the overall picture. The bottom line was that I had nothing to do with it and that was eventually demonstrated, but the greatest amount of trauma came from statements I made which were totally honest, totally true and totally foolish to make at the time.

Fore more examples, check out almost any book by Massad Ayoob, the self-defense expert. He often describes cases where someone on trial for a righteous self-defense shooting (including many police officers) got their genitals in a legal wringer by opening their mouth once too often.
330 posted on 10/03/2003 10:45:59 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
It would be short and sweet, something like this: "I am conpletely innocent of the publicly made allegations, I don't use illegally obtained drugs, nor do I obtain drugs illegally".

Then, if the press digs up some guy from twenty years ago who says, "I remember once when we were on a fishing trip, Rush sprained his ankle pretty bad so I gave him one of my prescription painkillers I had for my back", you've just been proven a "liar", the press spends the next week speculating about how much of the rest of your denial was a calculated lie, etc. etc. Congratulations, Einstein.

Oh yeah, that'll make big news. You bet, that would be earth shattering news, I'm sure that would make all the networks, and prove once and for all, Rush is a big fat liar and that any and all statement made by Rush will be suspect.......LOL....

Thanks for the laugh professor....

331 posted on 10/03/2003 10:49:43 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: raggededge
Rush's opening to his show made it perfectly clear to anyone who has listened to him for any period of time that there is some substance to the accusations.

Well, rags, I've listened to Rush for some time. I even was inclined (still am to a point) to believe there's something to the charge, until I heard him speak today.

It's all very subjective and until more facts come out nothing is "perfectly clear".

332 posted on 10/03/2003 10:52:03 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Faith
FAITH WROTE: "Rush is not "on something." He's on to something."

BINGO!!!

333 posted on 10/03/2003 10:54:35 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: MinuteGal
MINUTEGAL WROTE: "What if Rush was asked by law enforcement to participate in a long-running covert sting on the maid, her dealers and pushers?

That is basically what I am thinking...a STING that he was a WILLING PARTICIPANT in to HELP the Police pull it off---against OTHERS.

334 posted on 10/03/2003 11:05:47 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: KeyWest
KEYWEST WROTE: "Learn what they have before you speak."

BRILLIANT idea!!! No sense VOLUNTEERING info that they can ADD TO some OTHER charge.

335 posted on 10/03/2003 11:14:51 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: trelaina
TRELAINA WROTE: "When Rush was in the 2nd hour, talking about how he can't tell us anything yet, etc., he used the phrase "come clean" when referring to eventually giving us the facts."

I still think that Rush was a KNOWING, WILLING PARTICIPANT in a STING to STOP a drug operation. If so, he could "come clean" about his role to HELP STOP the drug ring.

336 posted on 10/03/2003 11:20:03 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: holyscroller; Neever; birbear; Phantom Lord; 50sDad; spectre; ostephani; The Game Hen
I'm not aware of him ever having been spaced out, zonked out, slurred, etc. Has anybody here ever known him to show signs of drug use?

Blast from the past: Check out this Free Republic thead from 9/2/99: WHO ELSE IS CONCERNED ABOUT RUSH SLURRING WORDS?

There were other similar threads, but that was the first one I managed to dig up.

While it seems likely he was on *something* at that time, though, it may well have been under a doctor's prescription at the time. I seem to remember him having back problems, for example.

337 posted on 10/03/2003 11:22:12 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Phantom Lord
I sure do wish Rush would come out and declare this whole mess to be utter BS. It is very difficult to be patient. I do as well, but have started strongly leaning toward his inability to do so and remain honest and truthful on the matter.

Gee. and while he's at it, do you also want Rush to announce whether or not he ever had a drink and then drove a car, or if he ever have a beer before he turned 21, or if he smoked a cigarette before he was 18, or if he ever sold a car and didn't report the proceeds on his taxes, or if he ever mowed a lawn for $10 and didn't report it to the IRS, or if he ever littered a gum wrapper out the window, or if he ever copied off his friend during a test, or if he had overdue library books

I think it is rather arrogant of anyone to in essence demand Rush declare anything about his personal life at this point.

All we have here is some interview in some sleazy magazine by some sleazy convicted maid, who got paid $100,000 for a story.

After reading all these holier than thou posts on FR, I am starting to see why some libs can't stand some conservative attitudes.

338 posted on 10/03/2003 11:33:48 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: 1smallVoice; All
1SMALLVOICE WROTE: "I have listened to Rush for many years and you would think someone who has this kind of a drug problem would not be able to do a daily radio show, write and sell best selling books, make numerous public appearances, play golf, travel, and still carry on a coherent conversation with strangers on the phone....this story does not make sense to me."

To me, the ONLY way it makes sense with all the FACTS you have mentioned, is if HE was PART of a STING operation to CATCH drug dealers.

The public reaction really reminds me of the beginning of the movie called 12 Angry Men...everybody but ONE juror is ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED that the ACCUSED guy is GUILTY and are ready to CONVICT him. As I recall, slowly, one by one, the rest end up changing their minds to find him NOT GUILTY as the FACTS come out. It was a really good movie to OPEN EYES to only judging on the FACTS. The movie was redone a few years ago. Both versions are good.

339 posted on 10/03/2003 11:37:46 PM PDT by Concerned
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To: Phantom Lord
PHANTOM LORD WROTE: "But being the Drug Warrior he has been in the past,..."

That is just one more reason that makes me think Rush is actually a KNOWING, WILLING PARTICIPANT of a STING operation to CATCH drug dealers.

Go rent the movie 12 Angry men.

340 posted on 10/03/2003 11:43:05 PM PDT by Concerned
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