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Perspective: Die-hard Confederates should be reconstructed
St. Augustine Record ^ | 09/27/2003 | Peter Guinta

Posted on 09/30/2003 12:19:22 PM PDT by sheltonmac

The South's unconditional surrender in 1865 apparently was unacceptable to today's Neo-Confederates.

They'd like to rewrite history, demonizing Abraham Lincoln and the federal government that forced them to remain in the awful United States against their will.

On top of that, now they are opposing the U.S. Navy's plan to bury the crew of the CSS H.L. Hunley under the American flag next year.

The Hunley was the first submarine to sink an enemy vessel. In 1863, it rammed and fatally damaged the Union warship USS Housatonic with a fixed torpedo, but then the manually driven sub sank on its way home, killing its eight-man crew.

It might have been a lucky shot from the Housatonic, leaks caused by the torpedo explosion, an accidental strike by another Union ship, malfunction of its snorkel valves, damage to its steering planes or getting stuck in the mud.

In any case, the Navy found and raised its remains and plans a full-dress military funeral and burial service on April 17, 2004, in Charleston, S.C. The four-mile funeral procession is expected to draw 10,000 to 20,000 people, many in period costume or Confederate battle dress.

But the Sons of Confederate Veterans, generally a moderate group that works diligently to preserve Southern history and heritage, has a radical wing that is salivating with anger.

One Texas Confederate has drawn 1,600 signatures on a petition saying "the flag of their eternal enemy, the United States of America," must not fly over the Hunley crew's funeral.

To their credit, the funeral's organizers will leave the U.S. flag flying.

After all, the search and preservation of the Hunley artifacts, as well as the funeral itself, were paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

Also, the Hunley crew was born under the Stars and Stripes. The Confederacy was never an internationally recognized nation, so the crewmen also died as citizens of the United States.

They were in rebellion, but they were still Americans.

This whole issue is an insult to all Southerners who fought under the U.S. flag before and since the Civil War.

But it isn't the only outrage by rabid secessionists.

They are also opposing the placement of a statue of Abraham Lincoln in Richmond, Va., the Confederate capital.

According to an article by Bob Moser and published in the Southern Poverty Law Center's magazine "Intelligence Report," which monitors right-wing and hate groups, the U.S. Historical Society announced it was donating a statue of Lincoln to Richmond.

Lincoln visited that city in April 1865 to begin healing the wounds caused by the war.

The proposed life-sized statue has Lincoln resting on a bench, looking sad, his arm around his 12-year-old son, Tad. The base of the statue has a quote from his second inaugural address.

However, the League of the South and the Sons of Confederate Veterans raised a stink, calling Lincoln a tyrant and war criminal. Neo-Confederates are trying to make Lincoln "a figure few history students would recognize: a racist dictator who trashed the Constitution and turned the USA into an imperialist welfare state," Moser's article says.

White supremacist groups have jumped onto the bandwagon. Their motto is "Taking America back starts with taking Lincoln down."

Actually, if it weren't for the forgiving nature of Lincoln, Richmond would be a smoking hole in the ground and hundreds of Confederate leaders -- including Jefferson Davis -- would be hanging from trees from Fredericksburg, Va., to Atlanta.

Robert E. Lee said, "I surrendered as much to Lincoln's goodness as I did to Grant's armies."

Revisionist history to suit a political agenda is as intellectually abhorrent as whitewashing slavery itself. It's racism under a different flag. While it's not a criminal offense, it is a crime against truth and history.

I'm not talking about re-enactors here. These folks just want to live history. But the Neo-Confederate movement is a disguised attempt to change history.

In the end, the Confederacy was out-fought, out-lasted, eventually out-generaled and totally over-matched. It was a criminal idea to start with, and its success would have changed the course of modern history for the worse.

Coming to that realization cost this nation half a million lives.

So I hope that all Neo-Confederates -- 140 years after the fact -- can finally get out of their racist, twisted, angry time machine and join us here in 2003.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: South Carolina
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I received an e-mail from Ron Holland, editor of Dixie Daily News, calling my attention to this editorial. Apparently, the responses to Gunita's rant were overwhelming, because the essay was pulled from the St. Augustine Record's website. I was only able to find the text via a cached web page courtesy of Google.
1 posted on 09/30/2003 12:19:22 PM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: shuckmaster; Aurelius; Tauzero; JoeGar; stainlessbanner; Intimidator; ThJ1800; SelfGov; Triple; ...
*ping*
2 posted on 09/30/2003 12:19:45 PM PDT by sheltonmac (If having the U.S. enforce U.N. resolutions is not world government, what is?)
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To: sheltonmac
According to an article by Bob Moser and published in the Southern Poverty Law Center's magazine "Intelligence Report," which monitors right-wing and hate groups

Yeah, well quoting the SPLC as a source is kind of a tip-off about where the author is coming from.

Hell, I'm a Yankee, and I'm offended by way these people treat southerners...

3 posted on 09/30/2003 12:26:13 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: sheltonmac
Gee whillikers, I'm "racist, angry, and twisted!" I always thought I just loved those smelly coastal mud flats where I was born and raised more than Manhattan concrete (which I also have developed a fondness for). Being a Southern Nationalist is fun!
4 posted on 09/30/2003 12:26:38 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: sheltonmac
The resentment of a defeated and occupied people often festers for centuries... witness the American South... witness the Middle East.

Unreconstructed Rebel

Oh, I'm a good old Rebel,
Now that's just what I am;
For this "fair land of Freedom"
I do not care a damn.
I'm glad I fit against it-
I only wish we'd won.
And I don't want no pardon
For anything I've done.

I hates the Constitution,
This great Republic too;
I hates the Freedmen's Buro,
In uniforms of blue.
I hates the nasty eagle,
With all his brag and fuss;
But the lyin', thievin' Yankees
I hates' em wuss and wuss.

We got three hundred thousand
Befo' they conquered us.
They died of Southern fever
And Southern steel and shot;
And I wish it was three million
Instead of what we got.

I can't take up my musket
And fight' em now no mo',
But I ain't a-goin'to love' em,
Now that is sartin sho';
And I don't want no pardon
For what I was and am;
And I won't be reconstructed,
And I do not give a damn.
5 posted on 09/30/2003 12:26:51 PM PDT by Lexington Green (FREE TOMMY CHONG)
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To: Kenton
There is a great expose waiting to be written on why staff turnover is so high at the SPLC. I hear sexual harassment has always been the order of the day on Dees' plantation.
6 posted on 09/30/2003 12:37:34 PM PDT by Middle Man
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To: sheltonmac
Let's see if Peter Guinta shoots off his foul-mouth at Ft. Clinch....
7 posted on 09/30/2003 12:44:44 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Middle Man
From what I've read, an employee of SPLC is only in danger of sexual harassment if he's a boyish young man within snapping distance of Morris Dees.
8 posted on 09/30/2003 12:45:13 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: Middle Man
I hear sexual harassment has always been the order of the day on Dees' plantation.

I do hope they're over the age of 12.

9 posted on 09/30/2003 12:47:51 PM PDT by TomServo ("Upon further review, the refs find that Cody is dead. The play stands -- Cody is dead.")
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To: Lexington Green
What's nearer the true spirit of the Old South:

the sour grapes of that song (which is funny); or

the various United Confederate Verterans (UCV) and Grand Army of the Republic (GAR) chapters who had joint meetings with each other and Confederate cavalry General Joe Wheeler who put Army Blue back on in 1898 to take command of the US Army's cavalry division for invasion of Cuba.

10 posted on 09/30/2003 12:48:05 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: sheltonmac
"Confederacy was never an internationally recognized nation, so the crewmen also died as citizens of the United States."

More internationalist drival . . .
11 posted on 09/30/2003 12:54:48 PM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: Texas Federalist
It was impossible for the seceded states to cease to become American. Lincoln viewed secession as impossible. Therefore, though they might claim a new allegiance, the Confederates were still legally citizens of the United States.
12 posted on 09/30/2003 1:00:40 PM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: Lexington Green
"I hates the Constitution,
"This great Republic too;"

"I love the Union and the Constitution but I would rather leave the Union with the Constitution than remain in the Union without it" ~ Jefferson Davis

13 posted on 09/30/2003 1:03:16 PM PDT by Middle Man
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To: warchild9
Let's just say a lot of people have left the SPLC with their idealism badly shaken. ;^)
14 posted on 09/30/2003 1:05:50 PM PDT by Middle Man
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To: sheltonmac; WhowasGustavusFox; sc-rms; catfish1957; THUNDER ROAD; Beach_Babe; TexConfederate1861; ..
ping!
15 posted on 09/30/2003 1:08:27 PM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: republicanwizard
the Confederates were still legally citizens of the United States.

Why require the '66 ironclad oath to reinstate citizenship?

16 posted on 09/30/2003 1:16:14 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
To make sure your ancestors didn't commit treason without understanding the consequences again.

We should have shot them, but that is only my opinion.
17 posted on 09/30/2003 1:18:45 PM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: sheltonmac
At the time of the Lincoln statue uproar I seriously suggested the SCV should say it was a fine idea and should be linked to putting a statue of R E Lee in DC maybe with Lee's (possible) quote 'Duty is the most subline word in the English language.' Other countries have done this with 'noble rebels'. In Tokyo one of the biggest statues commemorates Saigo Takamori the leader of the southern (Japanese) revolt against the Tokagawa regime.
18 posted on 09/30/2003 1:19:01 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: shuckmaster
SCV BUMP!
19 posted on 09/30/2003 1:19:44 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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To: robowombat
What is so noble about turning one's sword on the government and country that gave him the sword?
20 posted on 09/30/2003 1:27:16 PM PDT by republicanwizard
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