Daily Thread: Illegal Alien Freedom Ride Counter Protest

Title: Illegal Alien Freedom Ride Counter Protest Source: Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)

URL Source: http://www.fairus.org/html/activism.html Published: Sep 25, 2003 Author: staff

Beginning Sept. 28th thru Oct. 4th, many of us will be joining groups from across the country to counter the Illegal Immigrants Freedom Ride to DC. We will be using toll free phone numbers (that we pay for) to blitz the Senate, House and the Whitehouse on behalf of the hardworking citizens of the United States....the taxpayers.

Please join us. NUMBERS MATTER! It's our only hope to keep our politicians in line on this issue. We did it once early in the Bush Administration when he first pushed amnesty for illegals. It was a success! But we need you now to counter the Illegal's demand for "rights."

Please give us some time, if only to call your own Senators and Representatives to protest this invasion. And please consider calling as many of them as you can! In coming days I'll be posting links to the current incumbents, as well as a list of key sponsors of Pro-Illegal bills before the House and Senate.

The following are frequently asked questions to be used as talking points. Please print a copy to use in the event you actually get a "human being" to talk to! :0)

In 2001, more than one million immigrants were admitted to the United States. Additionally, about 500,000 entered illegally. This is nearly four times as many immigrants as we were receiving only 30 years ago.

About 20 percent come from Mexico. India, China, and the Philippines each send between five to seven percent. The following countries each send between two and three percent of our immigrants: Vietnam, El Salvador, Cuba, Haiti, Bosnia, Canada, the Dominican Republic, Ukraine, Korea, Russia, and Nicaragua. Together, these top 15 sending countries account for about 60 percent of all immigration to the U.S. The remaining 40 percent is composed of very small shares from a large number of other countries.

Most immigration (almost two-thirds) is sponsored by family members in this country who most often immigrated themselves and are now legal permanent residents or have become U.S. citizens. Smaller shares of admissions (about one-sixth) go to workers (and their families) whom employers say they need to complement the native workforce, and to refugees and asylees (about one-tenth). In addition, about one out of every 25 admissions visas is given away by lottery.

As a sovereign state, the United States has the right and responsibility to regulate the permanent and temporary admissions of non-citizens. This authority is vested in the Congress, which makes the laws that determine the basis on which visas are authorized (although refugee admissions are proposed annually by the President for concurrance by the Congress). The regulations that promulgate those laws are developed and administered by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) a division of the Department of Justice (DOJ). Within the INS, there are the Border Patrol, which monitors the borders against illegal entry; the INS Inspectors, who monitor people entering the U.S. at ports of entry such as airports; INS Investigators, who track down violators of immigration law; and immigration judges (appointed by the Attorney General), who hear cases on violations of immigration law and regulation. Independent from the INS but still within in the DOJ, there is a Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) administered by the Executive Office for Immigration Review; the BIA hears appeals of decisions by the immigration judges.

Immigration is much higher now than it has historically been. Through most of our country's history (more than 180 years), we took in fewer than 500,000 immigrants a year; for more than 135 of those years, it was fewer than 300,000 immigrants. In 2001, our country admitted 1,064,318 legal immigrants, as well as an estimated additional 500,000 illegal immigrants. Only seven years in our entire history have had as many immigrants as we received in 2001.

Because so many of today's immigrants are low-skilled, mass immigration brings competition for entry-level jobs, harming American low-skilled workers. Because most of today's immigrants are poor, they are a drain on our fiscal resources and our economy. Because immigrants are being admitted faster they assimilate, mass immigration is causing social strain and strife among different groups. And because immigration is the source of most population growth in the U.S., it strains the environment and our natural resources.

FAIR believes we should strive for a system in which continuing immigration does not add to our population size. That would mean admitting between 200,000 and 300,000 immigrants a year. This would allow us to maximize the positive effects of immigration without overwhelming our environment, schools, social services, and other institutions. It would also contribute to U.S. population stability over the long-term.

“Immigration is a big part of American tradition and national character. We are a nation of immigrants. ”

The fact is, immigration levels today are far higher than traditional levels; in the mid 1950s, our immigration was less than one-third what it is today. Also, the U.S. today is a very different country than in years past. We’re now a fully populated nation of almost 290 million people, not the sparsely settled territory of 150 years ago. Today we’re concerned about limiting sprawl, overcrowding, and environmental stress. Yet, if today’s rate of immigration is continued, it will add nearly 150 million people to our population over the next 80 years. How will that help achieve a single U.S. objective? Will it decrease traffic and other forms of congestion, improve water tables, decrease school overcrowding, cut oil consumption, reduce housing costs? Not one single domestic objective of our nation is being facilitated by today’s mass migration.

“Immigration has been good for us in the past and has made our nation great.”

Immigration in the past did bring benefits--in the past, the U.S. needed large numbers of people to settle the frontiers, cut forests, build railroads, mine gold, and much more. Today’s priorities are preserving our remaining wilderness areas, conserving our natural resources, and ensuring a better quality of life for future generations.

Furthermore, immigration in the past has been quite limited. History shows us that immigration at high levels is not beneficial, which is why the country cut back immigration after the brief Ellis Island period. In the past, we have successfully absorbed and assimilated immigrants because we have periodically halted immigration.

“Throughout our history, people have always attacked immigration and they have always been wrong.”

While people have opposed immigration for a variety of motives over the years, Americans have always had legitimate concerns about immigration and its effects on our population, economy, and society. While we have coped successfully with some of these concerns in the past, that is largely because mass immigration to this country was stopped, not because the concerns were unfounded.

“Immigration is less of a problem today because immigrants comprise a smaller share of our overall population than ever before.”

Quite the opposite is true. When there were fewer people in this country, there was more room and opportunity for immigrants. Now, in a country already stuffed with well over a quarter of a billion people, adding another million through immigration every year is much more of a problem. The more people we have in our country, the fewer immigrants can be added without unwanted consequences.

There are always people who support the right idea for the wrong reasons--but that doesn’t make the idea itself wrong. None of this changes the fact that bringing a million additional people from other countries into this one is disruptive to our economy, our society, and our environment. We condemn racism. But we also condemn the use of terms such as “anti-immigrant,” “racist,” or “xenophobe” as they are used to try to stifle open, honest discussion of how our immigration policy is impacting the country.

“Immigrants are a driving force behind our economy, performing jobs that Americans won’t do.”

There are no jobs Americans won’t do, only conditions and wages that are unacceptable. The employers who have become economically dependent on immigrants for cheap labor use this argument to justify virtual indentured servitude and then try to shame Americans into accepting it. Job competition by waves of new immigrants depresses the wages and salaries of American workers and hits hardest at minority workers and those without high school degrees.

Actually, both are true. But many of those jobs created are jobs in providing services to immigrants. Other jobs that immigrants create are generally low-skilled and mostly go to other other immigrants anyway. This doesn’t really benefit Americans at all; it simply creates distortions in the economy, generally away from the high-skills, high-education, high-wage economy most Americans support. And it doesn’t in any way address the increased burdens on our schools, environment, social services, and natural resources that bringing in so many additional people causes.

“We live in a global economy and must have foreign workers to compete in the world market.”

Very little immigration is of skilled personnel. Besides, it is precisely because of advances in global communications that we do not have to allow people to move to the U.S. to take advantage of their talents and benefit from their contributions.

“Immigrants are a net benefit, because they pay taxes and contribute more to our society than they cost.”

The seminal study of the costs of immigration by the National Academy of Sciences found that the taxes paid by immigrants do not cover the cost of services received by them. A calculation to the contrary works only if you discount the programs used by the immigrants’ children, refugees and asylees, immigrants who aren’t of working age, illegal immigrants working “off the books,” and immigrants from certain countries.

This argument also ignores the impact of sacrificing farmland and forests to roads and housing developments, increasing congestion to the point that people spend more time in traffic than at home with their families, and raising the burden on our already strained water supply and other natural resources.

A country isn’t a big box that you stuff as many people in as possible. It’s a society supported by an environment, and the question isn’t how many people can physically fit in it, but how many people the society wants and the environment can support. Many of the “wide open spaces ” in the U.S. are inhospitable deserts or mountains, or are already used as farmland to raise food to support the population living on the coasts and to export to feed people in other countries.

“Immigrants catch up quickly economically and soon blend into American society.”

There is increasing evidence of groups of immigrants who are trapped in depressed inner cities, and their children similarly find themselves unable to escape poverty. Today more than 21 million people in our country say that they speak English less than very well. Besides, the hub of the problem is not the rate at which immigrants are assimilating, it’s the rate at which we are admitting them. As long as we have mass immigration, the bulk of unassimilated people in our culture will grow, causing social tension and conflict.

The distinction between legal and illegal immigrants is increasingly blurred by programs such as the amnesty in 1986 that gave legal status to nearly three million illegal residents and provisions that allow illegal immigrants to become legal residents if they marry someone legally here, i.e., Section 245(i). There is little difference between the societal effects from illegal immigrants and from those who were amnestied (and the same is true to a large extent for family members sponsored by former illegal aliens).

“We have a humanitarian obligation to take in struggling people from other countries.”

We can’t solve the world’s problems by importing a tiny fraction of the millions who would like to come here. Instead, we should solve problems where people live and help them turn their countries into places that people aren’t driven to leave. But although the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees says that foreign aid and assistance is best utilized when the resources are spent on alleviating problems at their source, the U.S. channels a large share of its refugee resources on the transportation, language training, cultural adaptation, and assistance grants to refugees resettled in the United States that could benefit many more refugees if expended on temporary shelter and sustenance at refugee facilities near the refugees’ homeland and in the refugees’ eventual return to their homes.

It should be noted, however, that the United States admits as refugees many persons who are not true refugees under the United Nations’ standard, e.g. people from Cuba who do not qualify for asylum in this country.

Hello. I'm new to this forum and this is my first post. JustPiper, I'm so happy to hear that you took the time and made the effort to "greet" the Invaders! Way to go!

After reading your account, I'm a little worried about tomorrow when the illegals show up here in Indianapolis. I have organized a small protest. The signs are made. The fact sheet is compiled. The media has been notified, along with INS, and the batteries for my camcorder and camera are charged! We will be a rag-tag bunch, myself and four others, and I'm PRAYING that there are other protests that have been planned that I just haven't heard about. In any event, I WILL be there and anyone who cares to look my way WILL KNOW MY POSITION!

What bothers me the most is the laziness with which people view this issue. Everyone I talk to is just OUTRAGED. However, it seems that nothing outrages them enough to actually do something about it. What they don't realize, at least I don't believe they realize it, is that by not taking action...by concentrating only on going to work to pay their bills and their taxes....it has allowed our country to become morally bankrupt. The communist/socialist organizations are well-organized and find it easy to make spectacles of themselves in protests. Conservatives have been generally too polite to do such a thing. I'm glad we have Freepers who are rectifying that situation!!! It's time to fight fire with fire!

Wish me luck tomorrow and I will post a report afterwards ASAP.

We all have to be willing to give ten minutes of our time to the issue.

Some of us are willing to spend our whole lives fighting these and other issues i want my children to grow up in a free country and right now we have way to many people willing to chuck it all away for a little bit of so called security

Just 10 minutes is not enough its going to take considerably longer just to get people off their arses and to drop the remote,!

I was told that there is a law that people cannot do this. That they can't wear masks like that in public. It was somehow related to the Klan. I'm not sure that there is such a law but if there's not there certainly should be. IF THERE IS SUCH A LAW, why can these particular people get away with this? Also, why shouldn't all of us be able to see this kind of behaviour on the news? Why aren't people allowed to see what is really happening in this country?

in none of your examples is anything free

It's true that Victoria's examples show cut rates, but the fact is that illegals do get a lot of free stuff.

Free medical care in the Emergency Room is probably the most costly to taxpayers, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

And when you consider they shouldn't be here in the first place - that they should get a visa/green card and work here legally - then it's not hard to believe that everything they receive is free, courtesy of US taxpayers.

You have a Heart of Gold JustPiper. Thanks much for your report behind enemy lines and for all of your other good work. It must have been chilling for you and your kids to watch those Creepy Invading Marxist Rabble Rousers (criminals) gather out in the open and talk freely about their incredulous demands and plans of conquest. That they can do this without any fear shows how far our Republic has fallen.

Meanwhile, OUR politicians are tripping over themselves to appease these Strident Alien Insurrectionists with more welfare and extra-rights at the expense of American Citizens while keeping our borders wide open to this Invasion. It's pure Treason in my book. The more we give this Illegal Lot (whose only right is for a speedy deportation) the more contemptuous and bolder they get.

I see nothing but trouble ahead for our country.

And kudos to your president, tell him thank you!

I sure will. Back in 1996 our union went out on strike for 99 days and alot of illegals were the ones crossing the picket line as replacement workers. Alot of us will not forget this, including our present day local president. This I can stress on all of our members.

I will try to become more involved in our union on issues that concerns the more conservative members like illegal-immigration. At the very least try to keep them in check on where our money goes.

A white supremacist organized the Chicago rally.

These guys sound like white supremacist of the worst kind. It had to be difficult for both you and your daughter.

Thanks for the info. and please put me on your ping list if I'm not already on it. I got you on mine.

you can get that yourself. just give a fake name and show up with no id. no need to be an (illegal) immigrant.

You left out a word. I need to be a lawbreaker to get free medical care. This isn't about immigration, it's about the cost of lawbreakers.

Please...Get a clue.

Meanwhile, OUR politicians are tripping over themselves to appease these Strident Alien Insurrectionists with more welfare and extra-rights at the expense of American Citizens

How right you are WRhine. It our own people who are letting this happen. I've written both my state rep. (a dem) and my state senator (a republican) about illegal immigration. We are now just starting to see new arrivials in North St. Louis County which has been traditionally just whites and blacks. Now more Mexicans and Muslim Bosnians are filtering in. I do not want these people in my neighborhood if they are getting subsidies or being sponsored by rich liberals who live in other neighborhoods. Nothing destroys middle and working-class neighborhoods faster than Section-8 housing.

We have to somehow take this battle right to the source. The elite politicians.

Taking a quote from the great Air Force General, Curtis LeMay, "The hell with swatting flys, go straight to the manure pile". He could have been talking about the politicians of today.

Read these two articles if you will:

America must drain the immigration swamp

There are at least 33.1 million immigrants in the USA, presently.

Illegal Alien Freedom Ride Counter Protest

'America isn't a big box you try to stuff as many people into as you can.'

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