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Islamic chaplain is charged as spy
Washington Times ^ | 9/20/03 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 09/20/2003 1:41:55 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:08:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

An Army Islamic chaplain, who counseled al Qaeda prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, naval base, has been charged with espionage, aiding the enemy and spying, The Washington Times has learned.

Capt. James J. Yee, a 1990 graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., was arrested earlier this month by the FBI in Jacksonville, Fla., as he arrived on a military charter flight from Guantanamo, according to a law-enforcement source.


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To: FreedomPoster
A so-called Religion as a Trojan Horse, its really a political movement:

Mr. Griffin has made a study of Islam and finds it to be not a religion, in the sense of requiring some sort of moral response from the believer, but rather a tendency, in the political sense of a faction contesting for power.

The Koran, which he likens to "the Talmud on angel dust," instructs believers living in "infidel" nations to lay low until they reach about 10 percent of the population; then they may attack and disrupt the sinful host society with a better chance of ultimate takeover.............http://www.hvk.org/articles/1101/168.html

221 posted on 09/20/2003 11:50:33 AM PDT by Helms ("Nietzsche's critique of ressentiment - the "self-poisoned mind" - fits Islam like a glove")
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To: Happy2BMe
The upper right hand picture says it all.

Red-handed murderers.

222 posted on 09/20/2003 11:51:42 AM PDT by LibKill (Leaving the toilet seat up improves your household feng shui.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Wesley Clark is the only man I can think of more dangerous than William J. Clinton. He might be more dangerous than Hillary.

And, as for Islam, it must be defeated as comprehensively as Communism and Nazism. By peaceful means where possible, and by all means if neccessary.
223 posted on 09/20/2003 11:55:05 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: Sacajaweau
I wonder where he was when the U.S. serviceman disappeared mysteriously at Gitmo..........
224 posted on 09/20/2003 11:56:25 AM PDT by tioga (sunny and clear...)
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To: Savage Beast
When I say this there will be those who will say I am over reacting and paranoid! A little more than a year ago I was part of a posting about the rise of islam and the growing presence of mosques in my neighborhood here in Irving, Texas. This place now appears to be finished and is doing its business and is heavilly attended! This Mosque is located north of Highway 183 on Esters road/ west of Irving Mall.

Casual observance of this facility gives me cause to pause and wonder. This gathering place is less than a mile from where I live. One day I was coming home about the time they were leaving. I am not a expert in any respect far from it but what struck me was the large number of taxis that were leaving out going toward the west in the general direction of DFW Airport. Also I cannot determine all of the car types I also saw leaving the place but almost all I observed were not junkers. The fact is they all appeared to be late models particularly BMW's & Merceedes style automobiles and other high end cars, all as I said very nice; fanning out is all directions mainly heading south back to Highway 183. I say this not out of jealousy mind you but for the fact of the high numbers of them gathering in this place.

Maybe there is nothing to this to be concerned about but given the facts of how islam is promoted and organized I do at times get an uneasy feeling about all this knowing their historical intent and America's lazy unconcerned attitude towards a potential threat looming in our own backyards so to speak.

Do you see similiar activity in your neighborhood? It would be helpful to identify as I have done here so the awareness can be raised as a legitimate concern. The Dallas/Fort Worth area is and has been a hotbed of islamic activity in the recent past; for the most part unfortunately not nearly enough media focus has been given this issue. I don't know if we have a significant concern that we should worry about or not but this is not something I am willing to leave to chance!

225 posted on 09/20/2003 11:58:18 AM PDT by winker
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To: Kozak
This guy is now going to be a Private for the rest of his life.

Private hell. Lets hope his rank is "prison wife".

He needs a noose made of pig entrails.

226 posted on 09/20/2003 12:12:08 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: winker
I do not think that you are paranoid or over-reacting. Your concerns are ligitimate.

Anyone who thinks Islam is not aggressively imperialistic is a fool. Its overt goal is the establishment of a worldwide theocracy, with the Koran as the only constitution and the shariah as international law. American "Liberals" and European "Leftists" are its enablers. If the people of the West do not stop this advance, nothing will, and Muslims are well aware of this.

The only way to halt a Muslim takeover of the West--and the ultimate destruction of the West--is to remove "Liberals", "Leftists", and, in America, the Democrat Party from power. The stakes could not be higher.

227 posted on 09/20/2003 12:15:53 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The American Heartland--the Spirit of Flight 93)
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To: putupon
Another Jihadist in the Army? At least this one wasn't in the field where he could be rolling grenades into occupied tents.

This is far worse...

    Capt. Yee, of Chinese-American descent, was raised in New Jersey as a Christian. He studied Islam at West Point and converted to Islam and left the Army in the mid-1990s. He moved to Syria, where he underwent further religious training in traditional Islamic beliefs. He returned to the United States and re-entered the Army as an Islamic chaplain. He is said to be married to a Syrian woman.

First of all, anyone married to a foreign national of a terrorist-supporting nation should be excluded from any position in the Armed forces, much less any position involving intel, which someone working with detainees is certainly exposed to. Someone involved with one-on-one sesssions as a counselor/religious mentor is in a position to hear things that shouldn't be widely known as well. They can act as a facilitator of communication between individual prisoners, as well as between prisoners and outside world, including other nation's intelligence services or terror groups. Such information can get our people killed. A chaplain is also in a position to blackmail military personnel- he would be hearing confessions. Soldiers, assuming he's vetted and safe to talk with, could reveal in their confessions things which he or others could use to coerce them into acting on behalf or terror groups or other nations.

Someone who had moved to Syria should have been flagged from the get go.

 Capt. Yee had almost unlimited private access to detainees as part of the Defense Department's program to provide the prisoners with religious counseling, as well as clothing and Islamic-approved meals.

#$%&@*!!!!!! Just like that @#*(%^$@ leftist terror-lawyer Lynne Stewart who acted as a conduit for the WTC bombers...

The law-enforcement source declined to say how much damage Capt. Yee may have inflicted on the U.S. war against Osama bin Laden's global terror network.

*sigh* I hope they had him under surveillance for a long, long time so that he's done more damage to his own cause than ours, but that mightbe way too optomistic in today's PC world...

228 posted on 09/20/2003 12:28:52 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Guillermo
You have to study an enemy. So Islam should be mentioned at the academies.

Of course, the article doesn't make it clear if his study of Islam was personal or whether someone in an official capacity taught him.

229 posted on 09/20/2003 12:29:29 PM PDT by LenS
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To: eno_
"Wesley Clark is the only man I can think of more dangerous than William J. Clinton. He might be more dangerous than Hillary."

Think of the intel, coaching, and protection he has done/given for/to Hill and Bill.

230 posted on 09/20/2003 12:29:31 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: ambrose
"Simons" .. former CIA guy .. he was on FOX saying this could mean Lee would be charged with being a traitor and then be hanged. Also .. Simons said CIA was watching Lee for a long time .. and this may be a turning point in allowing so many privileges regarding the granting of "religious" freedom for ENEMY COMBATANTS ..!! You know the liberals will be going ballistic on this.
231 posted on 09/20/2003 12:37:13 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: kattracks
This is incredible. How are we ever going to sort the enemy out? I mean, who would have ever suspected a Chinese-American-West Point graduate-Islam convert-Army Chaplain to be on the side of the enemy. The sooner the powers that be admit that this war is as much about Islam as it is about terror, the sooner we will win it.
232 posted on 09/20/2003 12:37:41 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Imal
Also, what chaplain has access to sensitive information?

This one did; it's hard to interrogate prisoners if they have a go-between to help them get their stories straight, and to help the more senior terrorists among the detainees organize the others and coordinate their stories or aid them in resisting the stress of interrogation. All that info from "multiple sources" ie., multiple prisoners, could be little more than info from one central figure's head, designed to have us go on wild geese chases.

I wonder if this guy was associated with the Seattle Cell, and if he had any dealings with the mosques around the base.

233 posted on 09/20/2003 12:44:06 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: maestro
"Cain and Able......history of SIN against Jehovah!"

Actually, the history began with Abraham and Sarah. If you read that story - to it's conclusion - where Sarah demands that Ishmael and his mother be put out of the camp - you will find the seeds of hatred.

Ishmael (Arab) began the hatred because he believed Sarah had denied him his rightful inheritance; given that the eldest son is given the inheritance from the Father (Abraham). However, the inheritance was given to Isaac (Israel). After 4000 years, this fued over the land GOD gave to Israel has not changed. Just take a look at where all the Arabs live .. the place where GOD said the land belonged to Israel (The Egyptian River to the Euphrates).

And .. as an aside .. I personally believe the Arab's hatred of women began with Ishmael's relationships with Sarah and his mother (who did not fight for his inheritance).
234 posted on 09/20/2003 12:49:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; Cindy; Grampa Dave; Travis McGee; Alamo-Girl
Capt. James J. Yee, a 1990 graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., was arrested earlier this month by the FBI in Jacksonville, Fla., as he arrived on a military charter flight from Guantanamo, according to a law-enforcement source. Agents confiscated several classified documents in his possession and interrogated him.

I wonder what he was planning to do with those documents after he left Gitmo? Sell them to the Guardian?

235 posted on 09/20/2003 12:53:39 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Servant of the 9
Give me a break, how do we prove someone is a member of any other criminal conspiracy?

We're talking about a religion here. How is it a crime to go into a mosque and worship? Why would you even want to criminalize such a thing?

we will need no inquisition to seperate Muslims from honest Middle Easterners.

And what, pray tell, is an honest Middle Easterner?

We will use standard investigative techniques, scanning the public record, questioning witnesses and suspects, surveilance, phone taps, and then search warrants, followed by Grand Jury Indictment, Trial by Jury and if guilty, imprisonment.

For being a Muslim?

Again, what constitutes being a Muslim? It is a matter of the heart and mind. What would you do to people who had once been a Muslim but claimed they were no longer? How would you prove someone was a Muslim? Would an accusation be enough? If the person denied being a Muslim, what could you possibly do to prove he was? He could always say he doesn't believe in a god and that it was just a passing phase in his life. Who are you to say whether he's lying or not?

Finally, what do you do when liberals pass a law making Christianity illegal on the same legal framework that you used to outlaw Islam?

I tell you what. The America you're talking about creating would be an abomination. Thankfully, the US isn't going to create any sort of ammendment like you're wanting anytime soon- hopefully never. If it did, America would be deader than if it were totally overrun by Muslim hoardes.

And don't use the world "We" when you're talking about all this gestapo crap. I won't be there with you.

236 posted on 09/20/2003 12:54:05 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Mr.Smorch
All will probably get an early release if the leftists win the the Oval Office in 2004.

The rate the Democratic Party is going, they'll probably get medals.

237 posted on 09/20/2003 12:54:50 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: OXENinFLA
He studied Islam at West Point and converted to Islam and left the Army in the mid-1990s.

That just begs the question, "WHO TAUGHT THAT CLASS?"

In my brother's experience, most of the military-hired profs and instructors (at least those not teaching something technical or scientific), were flaming red leftists... maybe a similar principle of hiring the worst possible people applies.

238 posted on 09/20/2003 1:04:02 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Happy2BMe; Destro
Thanks for the ping.

I've been thinking. If they get to be the "religion of peace", maybe we should get to be "the religion of kicking your ass"...

Or maybe the "religion of throwing away the key"...
239 posted on 09/20/2003 1:11:59 PM PDT by marron
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To: fso301
Over the years, I've had many conversations with Christians who believe that "once saved, always saved". Any comments on this guys status?

The guy was supposedly a Lutheran... as am I, in which case my humble opinion would be that once he's known and then denied Christ, he's going to be mucking Hell's sewers for eternity. Far worse off than if he'd never been a Christian.

240 posted on 09/20/2003 1:13:49 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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