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VIDEO OF NEWS STORY ON FRESNO "HATE" RALLY AND PICNIC HERE!!!
RadioFR ^ | 9/14/03 | Diotima

Posted on 09/14/2003 1:03:04 PM PDT by diotima

Here is the video of the news story that ran Friday night about the Fresno Chapter's "hate" rally and picnic.

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; Front Page News; US: California
KEYWORDS: achillwind; dirtytricks; dusrupters; fr; freeperrally; freerepublic; fresno; fresnochapter; fresnosuit; liberalslying; lyingliars; misrepresentation; picnic; rally; slander; taxdollarsatwork; thoughcrime; youpayforthis
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To: sauropod
"Accept and approve"? No. All I said was that we shouldn't condemn all of Islam. Doing so is similar to condemning all of Christianity based on the actions of the freaks who murder doctors at abortion clinics.

As far as for being "Brainwashed"...Well, can you PROVE Christ is the son of God? No you can't. But you have faith that he is. You have somehow become convinced that he is...Even though it can't be proven.
201 posted on 09/15/2003 1:17:02 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
You seriously aren't suggesting that the hundreds of millions of militant Islamofascists are equivalent to a half-dozen wackos bombing abortion clinics are you? Your analytical skills leave much to be desired.

BTW, I don't have to "prove" Jesus is the Son of God. He is. He died and rose from the dead 3 days later for the sins of the world.

If you have doubts, then go read "evidence that demands a verdict" by Josh McDowell. There are other books that exist by people that set out to prove just the opposite - and became believers once they examined the evidence for Christ's Resurrection. I haven't had to "convince" myself of anything.

Methinks you are straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel.

202 posted on 09/15/2003 1:22:13 PM PDT by sauropod ("Oh Brian, Let's go to the stoning")
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To: diotima
cross linking related threads:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/982868/posts?page=1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/982599/posts?page=1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/982853/posts?page=1
203 posted on 09/15/2003 1:23:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: sauropod
You seriously aren't suggesting that the hundreds of millions of militant Islamofascists are equivalent to a half-dozen wackos bombing abortion clinics are you?

I thought Christians we're supposed to bear false witness against their neighbor?? I guess that part is just a suggestion for you???

And please....PROVE Christ is the son of God?

204 posted on 09/15/2003 1:25:06 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: MEG33
This is merely a little glimpse of the things to come.

Should current cultural and political trends continue, conservative viewpoints are quite likely to end up considered illegal as "hate". Canada has followed a long road to arrive very nearly at just that place. California and America are travelling that same path.

Welcome to tyranny -- the tyranny of opinion. We are entering Orwell's world, and unless the voters change course we are walking right down that road.

205 posted on 09/15/2003 1:26:23 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
You are ducking the issue. What do you call the madrassas in Pakistan and Bangladesh that indoctrinate children into hating America and wanting to kill Americans? What do you call what happens in Saudi Arabia, Yemen and other places?

How precisely - I want facts - am i "bearing false witness?"

And no, I am not going to do your homework for you. I pointed you in the direction to go find about Jesus Christ. If you choose to reject Him then its on your conscience, not mine.

206 posted on 09/15/2003 1:28:33 PM PDT by sauropod ("Oh Brian, Let's go to the stoning")
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To: sauropod
I was speaking of militant Islam...Suicide bombers. The 9-11 freaks.

You then presented a number..."Hundreds of Millions".

I say there are not that many militant muslims in the world. If there are, they're most certainly the most undermotived blood thirsty animals I've ever heard of.

Thus, you beared false witness.

As for Christ being the son of God, you CAN'T prove it. Like I said before...They call it "Faith" for a reason.


Now...Stop trying to make me argue in circles. You're not going to win with those games. What I've posted here is undesputable...The only way you can change that fact is to change what I've said.
207 posted on 09/15/2003 1:33:12 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: diotima
God Bless Jim Robinson! The liberal left and their minions of evil will stoop to any level to discredit freedom-loving Americans!!
208 posted on 09/15/2003 1:34:33 PM PDT by jonalvy44
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
Uh, "friend" and I am using this term loosely here.

Do your homework. Go look up what is happening in the Arab countries and in places like Indonesia (Remember the Bali Bombing)?

And before you dare to say again that I "bear false witness," the ONUS IS ON YOU to show me facts that I am wrong.

From what I have seen, the number is in the hundreds of millions.

Put up or shut up!

And once again, my little word twister, I am NOT TRYING TO PROVE that Christ rose from the dead and is the Son of God. The EVIDENCE does that. Go see for yourself.

209 posted on 09/15/2003 1:40:09 PM PDT by sauropod ("Oh Brian, Let's go to the stoning")
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To: sauropod
I was ORIGINALLY talking about militant muslims...The kind that commit suicide bombings. You then said there are "Hundreds of Millions" of them. I then said you're bearing false witness with a statement like that. And I backed that up with the following statement: "If there are Hundreds of Millions of militant muslims ready to use suicide bombings against non-muslims, they're the most undermotivated fanatics I've ever heard of." And I base that on the FACT that if there were, there would be a suicide bombing taking place about every 1/968th of a second around the world. And there obviously is not. Not even close.

Prove your statement or live with what I've said about you. I don't care which one you chose.

As for Christ being the son of God, if there was "Proof" (Which again, you chose to not provide), it wouldn't be called "Faith", it would be called "Fact".

If these simple truths are upsetting you, I don't care.
210 posted on 09/15/2003 1:48:47 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
I am really shocked that this CAN happen.Your warning is right on.
211 posted on 09/15/2003 1:55:34 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
You are really utterly clueless aren't you newbie (yes, I checked what time you signed onto the forum)?

I have ALREADY given you examples. What happened in places like the streets of Ramallah when the news of 9/11 flashed around the world? So many people were jumping for joy that Arafat had to pull news coverage of this because it looked so bad.

I can also tell you from personal experience at the Hatefest the Muslims had on the Mall a year ago this past April 20th that there were and are many, many Hate American muslims. That day, they numbered at least 5,000.

Go back and read the news reports. I am not going to do your homework for you.

Not all "militant Muslims" have weapons, nor are they necessarily of age to commit these crimes, 16 year old Palestinian girls notwithstanding, nor do they HAVE ACCESS to the types of targets (us) that would do us harm to the degree you say is needed to prove my point.

Your logic is non-existant. I have proved my ? point.

With respect to Christ's Resurrection, it seems to me you won't look at the evidence that exists EVEN WHEN YOUR NOSE IS RUBBED IN IT!!!!!! It ain't the SIMPLE TRUTHS that are upsetting me. It is the SIMPLETON saying them.

If you can't hang with the big dogs then get off the porch!

212 posted on 09/15/2003 1:58:06 PM PDT by sauropod ("Oh Brian, Let's go to the stoning")
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To: sauropod; A Broken Glass Republican
WOA you two!

I would strongly prefer this being saved for another thread PLEASE.

If you hijack the thread (I've seen these get out of hand), you will make it that much harder for freep names to be collected if this goes to a class action suit. This is why I crossed linked the related threads.

Thanks in advance for your help.
213 posted on 09/15/2003 1:58:06 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
Scuse me? When some whacko starts calling me a liar I have every right to respond to it.
214 posted on 09/15/2003 1:59:04 PM PDT by sauropod ("Oh Brian, Let's go to the stoning")
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To: Calpernia
You are right. I am sorry if I've made the situation more difficult. I was just repeating myself over and over anyway.

Please accept my appology and know that I'll now stop ploluting this thread.
215 posted on 09/15/2003 2:00:19 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: sauropod; A Broken Glass Republican
Thank you.
216 posted on 09/15/2003 2:01:13 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
You're more than welcome. And good luck!!
217 posted on 09/15/2003 2:02:40 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
Damn....wish I had the time to come to one of your rallies. Sounds like loads of fun.

Red

218 posted on 09/15/2003 2:23:20 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (life is but a dream...Sha Boom)
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To: Conservative4Ever
You are invited anytime you can show up. Look on FR to see when they are going to happen.
219 posted on 09/15/2003 3:41:12 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked
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To: diotima
Bump to top for further savor.
220 posted on 09/15/2003 5:46:13 PM PDT by jokar (Beware the White European Male Christian theological complex !!)
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