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Blue-State Pols Are Emptying Their Own States (Wonder Land)
Wall Street Journal ^ | Friday, August 29, 2003 | DANIEL HENNINGER

Posted on 08/29/2003 7:02:30 AM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:49:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The most significant voting bloc in California's famous recall election isn't Hispanics or angry male Democrats but the people who were so eager to weigh in that they've already voted -- with their feet. According to a report out this month from the U.S. Census Bureau, an astounding 2,204,500 Californians threw in the towel from 1995 to 2000 and highballed it out of the "Golden State." The state's net migration figure for the period is -755,536, and would be worse if Latin American immigrants didn't still drop in for a look. This is the first time the net migration number for California has ever gone negative.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bluestates; bluezone; dems; exodus; liberals; migration; redstates
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To: Porterville
BYE BYE, get out of my state and go back to New York Conneticut or where ever you came from.

Why the hostility. Is it directed at me?

41 posted on 08/29/2003 9:00:29 AM PDT by presidio9 (Run Al Run!!!)
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To: presidio9
No, it was a general reponse to the story, I realized I wasn't very clear after I posted, sorry.... it was just towards the IT pro's who came here with little skills in marketing, jammed up our highways and freeways, and now, with thier little skills have to move back home after destroying so many small farm towns outside of SF (like Pleasanton) it wasn't directed at you, sorry again.
42 posted on 08/29/2003 9:06:49 AM PDT by Porterville (I spell stuff wrong sometimes.... get over yourself, you're not that great.)
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To: presidio9
Oh, I'm also looking for work right now, so I'm a little negative.
43 posted on 08/29/2003 9:12:29 AM PDT by Porterville (I spell stuff wrong sometimes.... get over yourself, you're not that great.)
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To: Porterville
No offense taken. Good luck finding a job. What do/did you do?
44 posted on 08/29/2003 9:14:11 AM PDT by presidio9 (Run Al Run!!!)
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To: presidio9
Will the last person leaving the blue states please turn out the lights.

A Potomac Watch column a few years back from Wall St. Journal guru Paul Gigot was complaining about Lamar Smith and Alan Simpson and their attempts to shut down the border from those few, poor "campesinos" who just want a better life as waiters. He even went on to play the race card in another write-up.

The country was being invaded and the Journal just preferred to demonize anyone who tried to stop it. Now they write these sob stories about how Americans are leaving the very states the poor campesinos illegally settled in. Should we have expected anything else? They are so out of touch with the immigration disaster it's pathetic and have actually been part of the problem for years.

45 posted on 08/29/2003 9:14:55 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: presidio9
I was a teacher at a Jr college (Associate faculty) and a teacher for an adult High School (part time) but all the budget mess cancelled all my contracts. So I'm going to get my teaching certification for High School once and for all to avoid these types of situtations. I'm also getting my FirefighterI and EMT (eventual paramedic) so I can, at the very least, be a volunteer firefighter, but I'd like to be a "hot shot" for a couple years and jump out of planes.
46 posted on 08/29/2003 9:18:41 AM PDT by Porterville (I spell stuff wrong sometimes.... get over yourself, you're not that great.)
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To: Alberta's Child
That's the fear here in Montana where a large amount of Californians are flocking to, that they bring their Californian ideas and all the things that ruined there state here. Our motto: The Last Best State. We're all hoping for a nice 60 below winter and 10 feet of snow, that should send them fleeing otherwise Alaska here I come.
47 posted on 08/29/2003 9:38:19 AM PDT by MontanaBeth (Born Conservative)
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To: Phantom Lord
Have you adjusted to the pulled pork with vinegar sauce and Brunswick stew?

Sometimes I whine because there is none in Tennessee.

48 posted on 08/29/2003 9:57:06 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: presidio9
I left CA after finishing at UCLA. It was too far left for me.
49 posted on 08/29/2003 10:14:21 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Nothing Is More Vile Than A Blowhard With Halitosis! - redruM)
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To: bert
Have I adjusted? Hell, I make the best damn BBQ they have ever tried!
50 posted on 08/29/2003 10:48:06 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: MontanaBeth
Our motto: The Last Best State.

LOL. There was an article posted here a few days ago desribing Wyoming in a similar fashion. Having been to both places, I'd have to say that Montana will be ruined befoe Wyoming is, simply because Wyoming has had very few people moving there from the outside.

51 posted on 08/29/2003 11:31:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
Suburban Republicans have elected people like George Pataki, Tom Kean, and Christie Todd Whitman to office. The more suburban Republicans you get down there in North Carolina (especially as they move there from New York), the more your GOP candidates are going to start looking like these people. Trust me -- Liddy Dole is only the beginning.

Again, you're confusing the northern liberals, who wouldn't move South if you paid 'em, with the escapees, who are glad to reach saner territory.

I live in the North Carolina suburbs, bursting with Yankees -- and NC suburbs are the driving force of conservatism in the state right now. You want good conservatives, you look at the senators and reps from Mecklenburg and Wake. You want RINOs? Try rural Moore County.

The only suburban liberals 'round here are the hippies around Chapel Hill et al, buncha rich white granola-eating elitist professors.

The normal suburbanites have good jobs, send their kids to private or parochial school, have insurance through their jobs, and go to church on Sunday. Their primary interest is to keep their property, income, and business taxes down and resist disruptions to social order like "gay rights".

On the other hand they don't have the same appetite for good-old-boy us-vs-them rhetoric that has allowed Dems to hold sway over rural NC.

52 posted on 08/29/2003 11:36:08 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: Gunslingr3
Tis why I am moving out of Los Angeles. My cost of living will go down 32% when I head down South next February.

My sister-in-law rents a better apartment for $200, then the one I was renting last year for $850. My mother in law's mortgage on her 6 acre property, 4 bedroom house with 2500 square feet is only $625 a month. It's ridiculous to pay more to live in a one bedroom apartment in Los Angeles than in a house with land. Smog, traffic, no space, crime, liberalism, and you pay more for it. Woohoo.

53 posted on 08/29/2003 11:47:28 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: JohnnyZ
Ssshhhh, your gonna upset the good ole boys and ruin one of their favorite whipping posts.
54 posted on 08/29/2003 12:26:48 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: presidio9
Immigrants Enter Country through 'Gateway' States Before Moving Inland, Census Bureau Says 8/22/03 12:01:00 AM

WASHINGTON, Aug. 22 /U.S. Newswire/ -- About 60 percent of the 5.6 million foreign-born population who moved to the United States between 1995 and 2000 entered the country through six "gateway" states (California, New York, Texas, Florida, Illinois and New Jersey), an analysis of Census 2000 data shows.

At the same time, three of the gateway states New York, California and Illinois had considerable net out-migration of their foreign-born populations to other states between 1995 and 2000. New Jersey was the only gateway state to have net out-migration of natives but net in-migration of foreign-born people.

"One of the major findings of Census 2000 was the overall size of the foreign-born population and its presence in areas outside the traditional immigration gateways such as California, New York and Texas," said Census Bureau Director Louis Kincannon. "Like the Westward migration of immigrants in centuries past, their movements remind us that opportunities abound throughout our country." Among the biggest beneficiaries of secondary migration, i.e., foreign-born migrants from other states, were North Carolina (76,000) and Nevada (73,000). Nevada had more foreign-born migrants from other states than it did from abroad.

The new Census Bureau report, Migration of Natives and the Foreign Born: 1995 to 2000, examined Census 2000 data to compare migration patterns for natives (people born in the United States) with people born abroad. Among the report's findings:

-- Domestic migration patterns of foreign-born and native migrants were similar, with common destinations.

-- Between 1995 and 2000, California's net out-migration rate to other states for its foreign-born people (30.4 people lost per 1,000 foreign-born residents in 1995) was higher than its net out-migration rate for natives (22.6 people lost per 1,000 native residents in 1995). -- California was responsible for most foreign-born migrants to Georgia, with 19,000 making the cross-country move during the five-year period.

-- Nevada had the highest net migration rate of foreign-born migrants from other states, gaining 276 people for every 1,000 foreign-born residents in 1995, while Florida had the largest net migration gain of foreign-born migrants from other states: 89,000.

-- Some states and counties in the Midwest had net domestic out-migration of natives but net domestic in-migration of the foreign-born population. For example, Nebraska and Kansas had native net out-migration rates of 13.1 and 5.2, but foreign-born net in-migration rates of 101.0 and 47.6, respectively.

The report and supplementary data tables, as well as previously published migration reports, are available on the Internet at http://www.census.gov/population/www/cen2000/migration.html.

55 posted on 08/29/2003 12:32:55 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Phantom Lord

56 posted on 08/29/2003 12:34:36 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: JohnnyZ
Thats a wonderful Red X!
57 posted on 08/29/2003 12:38:16 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: All
At the same time, three of the gateway states New York, California and Illinois had considerable net out-migration of their foreign-born populations to other states between 1995 and 2000. New Jersey was the only gateway state to have net out-migration of natives but net in-migration of foreign-born people.

Hehehe......

58 posted on 08/29/2003 12:40:01 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Alberta's Child
Equal time required post:


59 posted on 08/29/2003 12:40:39 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: JohnnyZ
Speaking of upsetting the good ole boys. I remember the day I moved to NC. I pulled into the parking spot infront of the town home I was renting and the guy in the town home next to mine was standing out front. He saw the NY plate on the front of my truck and looked at me and said "Great, another fucking god damn yankee!"

I looked at him and said "Thats right you red neck hick!" He went inside and never said another word to me. He was quickly introduced to my Gibson Explore and my vast array of amps and effect pedals.

60 posted on 08/29/2003 12:40:39 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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