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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: floriduh voter
The one link we have of Greer with McConihay is the one dandelion found for the 1970's at

http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?a1=DETFIL&n1=728888&n2=OFFFWD&n3=0001&n4=P&r1=&r2=&r3=&r4=&r5=&r6=&r7=MCCONIHAY&r8=

Florida Non Profit
SUNCOAST CHRISTIAN CAMPS, INC.
-

PRINCIPAL ADDRESS
210 20TH STREET SW
LARGO FL 33540


MAILING ADDRESS
210 20TH STREET SW
LARGO FL 33540
Document Number
728888 FEI Number
000000000 Date Filed 02/19/1974
State FL Status INACTIVE Effective Date NONE
Last Event
CANCEL FOR NON-PAYMENT Event Date Filed
09/03/1976 Event Effective Date
NONE



Registered Agent
Name & Address
GREER, GEORGE W.
501 SOUTH FORT HARRISON AVENUE
CLEARWATER FL 33516


Officer/Director Detail

Name & Address Title
MCCONIHAY,(STEPHEN E. JR LARGO FL PD
GREER,(GEORGE W.) CLEARWATER FL VD
MCCONIHAY,(DONNA M.) LARGO FL SD

881 posted on 09/02/2003 3:55:54 PM PDT by syriacus (Is Terri suffering from severe depression, on top of the insult to her brain?)
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To: pc93
I think that Greer could be in trouble because if as the guardianship judge he allowed Michael Schiavo to blow the malpractice proceeds that were supposed to go to Terri's rehab, that would be misconduct and legal malpractice by J. Greer.

If the money's gone - over a million bucks, J. Greer was supposed to be monitoring the guardianship of the person and the property. J. GREER FAILED ON BOTH COUNTS. MALPRACTICE BY A CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE. (done shouting) I did guardianship accountings for 150K. They had to be perfect, including all expenditures and receipts.

I wonder WHO DID TERRI'S GUARDIANSHIP ACCOUNTINGS because they blew the money and J. Greer let them do it.

882 posted on 09/02/2003 4:00:09 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
You organize the protest, give out the address and I'll be there. Count on me. I think J. Greer is guilty of malpractice for failing to properly oversee the guardianship of the property.

Where are Terri's proceeds from her malpractice suit? Why does hubby say the money's gone. One million dollars gone in less than ten years? That is Judge Greer's responsibility and if Michael Schiavo was the guardian of the property, he failed but gets a pass from J. Greer.

883 posted on 09/02/2003 4:03:36 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
Maybe its time for prayer and fasting.
884 posted on 09/02/2003 4:04:58 PM PDT by trustandobey
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To: agrace
At the top of this thread is the link to Terri's family's web site. I think it's terri'sfight.org but not sure of the spelling. But, Judge Lazzara may have done a verbal order and the written copy will follow by mail. Visit Not Dead Yet, another group trying to help Terri. They put pleadings on their site.
885 posted on 09/02/2003 4:05:49 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
$480,000 has gone to Felos and his cronies alone....
886 posted on 09/02/2003 4:06:38 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Government Sanctioned murder in FL! Christians, get out of the pews & MAKE YOUR STAND!)
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To: trustandobey
I agree. I'm in prayer throughout the day, and had considered fasting as well. I believe I will. How about all on the same day,,,Sept. 10?
887 posted on 09/02/2003 4:07:42 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Government Sanctioned murder in FL! Christians, get out of the pews & MAKE YOUR STAND!)
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To: syriacus
And those land grabbers are friends of Greer? That's rich! And they run a Christian camp too? hypocrisy lives in Pinellas-Pasco County.
888 posted on 09/02/2003 4:08:00 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
That money was for long term care but Felos came along and the push to get rid of the feeding tube began.

We know Felos was on the board of the hospice at least till April 2001. When did he become the attorney for the husband? Did he quit the board in order to take this case? Sorry, I'm lousy with numbers. All the dates keep running together for me. :)

889 posted on 09/02/2003 4:08:53 PM PDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: kimmie7
Sounds great! The good Lord can do what we are unable to do, but that doesn't mean I'll quit trying! I just tried to correct a post on the other web site that called her comotose.
890 posted on 09/02/2003 4:13:33 PM PDT by trustandobey
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To: yhwhsman
If memory serves, he 'stepped down' after becoming Schiavo's attorney. But not immediately.
891 posted on 09/02/2003 4:13:44 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Government Sanctioned murder in FL! Christians, get out of the pews & MAKE YOUR STAND!)
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To: floriduh voter
When I called Jeb's office the day before his letter the person on the phone said that Jeb couldn't do anything so I asked to be attached to the State Attorney General's office and the same story was told me but with the added note that only if Jeb told them could they do something. Perhaps it's the same on the Federal level.
892 posted on 09/02/2003 4:13:51 PM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo to be sanctioned by Jeb Bush, FL, Fed courts?)
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To: agrace
On paper, it would look like, uh, well, get yourself a GIANT piece of paper. Maybe a table form could categorize the players by name and then by all their affiliations. After you get that far, if you do this, post to that point and we'll help you put together another column to define their connection to Terri's case.

Using a table, and if you make more than one copy, you can highlight people whose paths cross at Hospice, St. Pete College, pro-death groups, and for JUDGE GREER - a detailed account of his failures to protect the person or the property of Terri Schiavo.

893 posted on 09/02/2003 4:16:27 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
Nothing up on Terri's site yet. I looked at the other you mentioned the first time it was referenced on this thread, check out a quote from one article on the site, regarding persistent vegetative state -

Terri Schiavo's case is just the tip of a very ugly iceberg. In 1996, the British Medical Journal published a study authored by professionals from a leading neurological medical facility in Great Britain. The authors of the study found that fully 43% of the individuals referred to their facility diagnosed as being in PVS had actually recovered.

The trouble, the authors said, was that it took time and effort to really assess a patient's ability to react, communicate, and interact with others. Some came out of PVS after entering the unit. Others had already come out of it, albeit unnoticed by the referring physicians.

894 posted on 09/02/2003 4:17:04 PM PDT by agrace
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To: kimmie7
Re: Felos.. if you go to the Florida Bar online http://www.flabar.org/ and click on Regulation on the
left hand side I note this:

The Florida Bar has an important role in the regulation of lawyer conduct . A complaint of unprofessional conduct against a Florida Bar member is a serious matter. The processing and investigation of inquiries and complaints are a basic responsibility of the Bar as mandated by the Florida Supreme Court. The Bar seeks to protect the public from unethical lawyers.

Is Felos a member of the Florida Bar?
895 posted on 09/02/2003 4:18:29 PM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo to be sanctioned by Jeb Bush, FL, Fed courts?)
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To: agrace
Others had already come out of it, albeit unnoticed by the referring physicians.

That is the saddest, most pathetic part of that. How could a physician NOT notice?

896 posted on 09/02/2003 4:20:29 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Judicially Sanctioned murder in FL! Christians, get out of the pews & MAKE YOUR STAND!)
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To: pc93
yes, he is.
897 posted on 09/02/2003 4:21:05 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Judicially Sanctioned murder in FL! Christians, get out of the pews & MAKE YOUR STAND!)
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To: kimmie7
Re: the mobile home crisis. The elderly have a fixed income and will never be able to afford another home of any kind. They are forced into a group home or a nursing home for the elderly. That's just a hop, skip and a jump from Hospice and once again, WHO DECIDES WHO LIVES AND WHO DIES? That is the end result when you have a really, lame statute that IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!
898 posted on 09/02/2003 4:22:15 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
Florida State

Reasons for Removal of a Guardian

744.474 Reasons for removal of guardian.--A guardian may be removed for any of the following reasons, and the removal shall be in addition to any other penalties prescribed by law:

(1) Fraud in obtaining her or his appointment.

(2) Failure to discharge her or his duties.

(3) Abuse of her or his powers.

(4) An incapacity or illness, including substance abuse, which renders the guardian incapable of discharging her or his duties.

(5) Failure to comply with any order of the court.

(6) Failure to return schedules of property sold or accounts of sales of property or to produce and exhibit the ward's assets when so required.

(7) The wasting, embezzlement, or other mismanagement of the ward's property.

(8) Failure to give bond or security for any purpose when required by the court or failure to file with the annual guardianship plan the evidence required by s. 744.351

(9) Conviction of a felony.

(10) Appointment of a receiver, trustee in bankruptcy, or liquidator for any corporate guardian.

(11) Development of a conflict of interest between the ward and the guardian.

(12) Having been found guilty of, regardless of adjudication, or entered a plea of nolo contendere or guilty to, any offense prohibited under s. 435.03 or under any similar statute of another jurisdiction.

(13) A material failure to comply with the guardianship report by the guardian.

(14) A failure to comply with the rules for timely filing the initial and annual guardianship reports.

(15) A failure to fulfill the guardianship education requirements.

(16) The improper management of the ward's assets.

(17) A material change in the ward's financial circumstances such that the guardian is no longer qualified to manage the finances of the ward, or the previous degree of management is no longer required.

(18) After appointment, the guardian becomes a disqualified person as set forth in s. 744.309 (3).

(19) Upon a showing by a person who did not receive notice of the petition for adjudication of incapacity, when such notice is required, or who is related to the ward within the relationships specified for nonresident relatives in ss. 744.309 (2) and 744.312 (2) and who has not previously been rejected by the court as a guardian that: (a) The current guardian is not a family member; and (b) Removal of the current guardian is in the best interest of the ward, the court may remove the current guardian and appoint the petitioner, or such person as the court deems in the best interest of the ward, either as guardian of the person or of the property, or both. History.--s. 1, ch. 74-106; ss. 21, 26, ch. 75-222; s. 84, ch. 89-96; s. 138, ch. 95-418; s. 13, ch. 96-354; s. 1788, ch. 97-102; s. 283, ch. 99-8; s. 2, ch. 99-277; s. 111, ch. 2000-349. Note.--Created from former s. 746.03.

899 posted on 09/02/2003 4:28:33 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Judicially Sanctioned murder in FL! Christians, get out of the pews & MAKE YOUR STAND!)
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To: pc93
Thanks for posting the Fl Bar website, I e-mailed them too.
900 posted on 09/02/2003 4:28:49 PM PDT by trustandobey
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