Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:

Various ^ | August 28, 2003

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:

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I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter

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From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."

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Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."

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8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.

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(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

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The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)

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Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

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I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer

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..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

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HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

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I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

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Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter

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Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter

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Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

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Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Is was of great interest to me to read that this filing was penned at least in part by :

Christopher A. Ferrara, Esq.
Specially appearing pursuant to Rule 2.02(a)
American Catholic Lawyers Association, Inc. ( My emphisis. )

YES!!

[floriduh voter]

This is breaking wide open and Terri's condition has improved. I'm all a blur from all the emails, phone numbers and research caring freepers have posted here. I thank all of you for your efforts. We've covered many bases. Maybe Terri will finally get justice and then have more healing.

[windchime]

"Is was of great interest to me to read that this filing was penned at least in part by :

Christopher A. Ferrara, Esq.
Specially appearing pursuant to Rule 2.02(a)
American Catholic Lawyers Association, Inc. ( My emphisis. )"

"YES!!"


YES!! ...again.

[Lovergirl]

You folks are the best people in the world. God bless you all for all you have done and continue to do. I know how hard you have worked for this woman. I have followed these threads since they have started. I can't seem to read any others. It is a compelling story and I hope and pray that the husband and his friends pay dearly for what they have done. I pray that Terri lives and is finally able to get the therapies that she needs. She has suffered tremendously.
I will continue to pray for Terri Schiavo, and I will also pray for all of you. You have all done a great job and you have restored my faith in humanity. Again, may God continue to Bless all of you.

[windchime]

"You folks are the best people in the world."

You are, too! Keep praying for Terri and for decisions in her favor by those who control her fate.

[windchime]

The mission of the Project on Death in America is to understand and transform the culture and experience of dying and bereavement through initiatives in research, scholarship, the humanities, and the arts, and to foster innovations in the provision of care, public education, professional education, and public policy.

Since its inception in July 1994 , the Project on Death in America - Grants Programs have provided funding for innovative approaches to understanding and changing the process of dying and bereavement. To learn more about our past funding click here.

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This caught my eye because Soros is associated and hospice is prominently mentioned.  He is involved in everything worldwide and has close associations with X42.

I have not spent the hours that would be necessary to examine the entire site.  This particular group has been active since 1994......that's 9 years they're ahead of us.  But for Terri's plight, I wouldn't know this group existed. 

They could be using Terri's case as a landmark case.  Florida is a good state in which to engage this battle because ramifications of the controversy could have secondary political benefits.  And....we do have plenty of old people......if unsuccessful, they can try, try and try again.  Also, perhaps there's financial reward for those who participate that would make the original $700,000 look like chicken feed.  All this is speculation, but 8 years of WJBC has led me to look carefully (and suspiciously) at events.

[floriduh voter]

Do you think this is all money driven or they are trying to make society more secular, i.e. wherein eventually our individuality doesn't matter at all or our right to life.

We are a village. We are expendable because we're just one more body. And "imagine there's no heaven." I think that's where they're headed with this campaign.

Glad that the Catholic Attorneys filed their own Brief for tomorrow. All the way from New Jersey.

Self appointed spiritualists like Felos are soul-less. They are not walking in the light. This is about so much more than one feeding tube and I agree this case itself has monstrous implications and proportions. We'll do what we can and God can do the heavy lifting.

I have experienced a religious epiphany doing this work and I started out looking at it from a legal position. Fregards, FV

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[kimmie7]

I have experienced a religious epiphany doing this work and I started out looking at it from a legal position. Fregards, FV

I think that's wonderful. God bless. Along about 2:00 tomorrow I'll be in prayer, as I'm sure we all will. But let's remember that they're preparing tonight...burning some midnight oil. Pam Hennesy's office manager, Tom, shared that they were extremely busy there. Keep them in your prayers as well as all other parties involved.

[dixiegrrl]

Judge Greer was a zoning lawyer according to this link http://www.sptimes.com/News/042801/TampaBay/Judge_George_Greer.shtml
and go to this link for other information on his career
http://www.clwbar.org/resipsa/march98/judgeS.html

[Theodore R.]

How can she be getting treatment at the hospice when this is specifically against Michael Schiavo's orders? Does she have pneumonia? Ironically, the 64-degree requirement may have killed bacteria and prolonged her existence, but it would not help much with overcoming pneumonia, would it?

It is good that the parents are trying to prevent cremation in the event of imminent death. Cremation will cover up all the evidence of a crime here.

No one has yet said how M. Schiavo earns his living. He has apparently spent $300,000 from the original settlement with the insurance company. Has he been living on that for the past several years?

[Ohioan from Florida]

Yes, I have seen Ashcroft's email and will tend to that letter next. It is great that Terri's condition improved over the weekend, but I am going to keep praying for her continued recovery. You just can't get away from the awesome power of prayer! Like Kimmie, I wish I could be bodily present at that courthouse, praying as Schiavo & gang enter the building. My presence from Ohio will have to suffice!

[floriduh voter]

They are definitely prepared for tomorrow's hearing. They've been spiked every time by J. Greer. Trying to prevent the cremation goes back to questions about what an atopsy might reveal in the event the worse happens.

The reason Terri is supposed to receive medical treatment is because J. Greer, the hanging Judge doesn't pick the "exit protocol" date until September 11th. So, technically, they are supposed to keep her alive until they are supposed to starve her to death by Court Order.

We haven't really checked into Michael Schiavo that much. We've got Hospice, Felos and Greer covered. I can't picture that Michael Schiavo would have a web site but who knows? If he wanted hate mail, maybe. He was really rattled when Jeb Bush wrote to the Judge. He's obsessed with Terri's wishes (hearsay) being carried out. He called the 27K emails Jeb got from "right to lifers". That's not the case. We take care of our own, meaning, an American in need who is being warehoused and then starved to death. Michael Schiavo deserves a google search. Maybe tomorrow. I'm outta here. Good night.

[floriduh voter]

All the talk shows tv and radio are on holiday today. Hannity & Colmes with Tom Daschle. He made the longest sentence I've ever heard. I'll have what he was having. I turned off the tv. Calling the Courthouse in Tampa tomorrow and researching Michael Schiavo. I'd like to find his quotable quotes.

This is just some humor but imagine if Michael Schiavo had a blog spot. I can just picture his daily weblog entries. Sept. 1, 2003: "gee, some kooks at this free republic aren't minding their own business, just like the Governor didn't!"

[Ohioan from Florida]

I read the article on your first link and it had a link to another article regarding Terri. Late in the article it mentions that Schiavo was engaged to the other woman for 5 years, and that was in April, 2001! Here's the link if anyone's interested:

http://www.sptimes.com/News/042801/TampaBay/Attorneys_scramble_to.shtml

[floriduh voter]

Well, we have J. Greer in the specialty of Zoning. I wonder if there's a way to do a check of Hospice Suncoast of Pinellas zoning applications. They have a few facilities. They've been in Pinellas approx. 10 years.

Additionally, he was a County Commissioner which brings up the zoning question. Did he have anything to do with granting Hospice any variances to acquire property? I'm asking a rhetorical question unless you want to look it up. Did George Felos when he was on the Board of Hospice show up on any documents about zoning variances for Hospice.

If Greer and Felos were both involved in zoning variances for Hospice, neither one of them should have been allowed by law to be involved in Terri's guardianship case. A recusal by Greer and a withdrawal from the case by Felos upon admitting he worked for Hospice who needs patients.

Hospice is a third party who in this case, would be the ones who are starving Terri thanks to J. Greer. If Greer & Felos and Hospice can be linked pre-Terri, it seems like a racket to me.

While we're praying, let's pray that Michael Schiavo caves. That would be sweet. That would really be a miracle.

[blueriver]

We haven't really checked into Michael Schiavo that much

I did a property search on Jodi Centonze (his live in) from the Pinnellas County Property Appraiser Information web page. So his address is 2807 Marrie Court, Clearwater Fl. 33761-3837.

http://pao.co.pinellas.fl.us/htbin/cgi-scr3?o=1&a=1&b=1&r=&s=1&u=0&p=29+28+16+61655+000+0390267%2C302337%2C661&name=View

[floriduh voter]

Hospice employees have their own attorney. They have been fired for trying to change the culture at the Hospice. Jonathan Alpert of Tampa is the expert on Hospice from the employees' standpoint.

Medical records are alleged to have been altered and erased, some by Michael Schiavo himself. When Hospice employees tried to point out irregularities, they've been fired. There are pages and pages of their accounts.

The trust factor in Terri's Fight was breached right after Michael Schiavo received the settlement payout for the malpractice case. That money was for long term care but Felos came along and the push to get rid of the feeding tube began.

[floriduh voter]

If that's the correct spelling, we can figure out the neighborhood with mapquest. He may live in a dive neighborhood for all we know.

[lakey]

Wonderful work all of you have been doing today, rattling some cages.

Wild Arizona weather has kept me offline today.