Alabama SC justices cave, order Ten Commandments removed

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[rwfromkansas]

MONTGOMERY, Ala.

[ampat]

Are you surprised, after all, they are all lawyers.

[ConsistentLibertarian]

Maybe you weren't aware of the many cases the ACLU has taken on specifically the fight for freedom of religion under the US Constitution.

Y'all are making making my point quite nicely.

[lugsoul]

Sure - It will be a little while, cause I've gotta go hunt them down again and I'm in the middle of a couple of things. My favorites, BTW, are that other faiths like Hinduism and Buddhism are not "religion" for purposes of being protected by the 1st Amendment, and that people of other faiths only have the freedom to worship their God because Christianity allows them to do so.

[ConsistentLibertarian]

"shouldn't ACLU be fighting to uphold the religious freedom of conservative Christians"

They always do. If he wants to put the monument on his front lawn the ACLU will fight tooth and nail to protect his right to do so.

[tbpiper]

It would be cool if the building manager refused to comply or publicly resigned.

He could put the removal job out for bid. There's all kinds of paperwork to be completed and heaven forbid any bidder should protest the selection. Could tie the removal up for a long time. My point is to use the system to screw the system.

[m1-lightning]

It would be cool if the building manager refused to comply or publicly resigned.

It would be cool if thousands of conservatives came from all over to block the removal.

[Helix]

IMO, and it is only an opinion, this is reason enough to despise that organization.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=ACLU+and+Nambla

[montag813]

1975 O'Connor v. Donaldson The Court's first ruling on the rights of mental patients supported a non-violent man who had been confined against his will in a state hospital for 15 years. Mental illness alone, said the Court, could not justify "simple custodial confinement" on an indefinite basis.

Interesting that you celebrate this "victory for the rights of mental patients", given that this case is now notorious for leading to the mass de-institutionalization which created the "Homeless" crisis and led to people like Andrew Goldstein, who pushed a woman to her death in front of a NYC subway "N" train because he couldn't be held despite his doctor's assertions that his scizophrenia posed a "dangerous" risk to others. This ruling let crazy people out, with the "freedom" to come back to take their medication. The problem is many of them did not, and hundreds of people have been murdered as a result.

Geraldo Rivera lobbied strongly for this case at the time and now repudiates it. You were talking about ignorance...you demonstrate it brilliantly here.

The ACLU is a disgusting band of jihadists bent of the destruction of religion, morality and decency anywhere and everywhere they find it in the United States.

[inquest]

The "no law" argument has been shredded on numerous threads

No, it's mostly been ignored on previous threads.

As for Moore showing a preference, you obviously haven't read his own words. He flat our says that the God of the KJV is the God that has sovereignty over the state and every citizen in it.

Such a statement is not a legal preference, and even if it was, it's not a preference for a particular sect, society, denomination - which are just another way of saying religious organization - nor is it a preference for a mode of worship, since he's not telling anyone how to worship God.

[jern]

That is what I am thinking. People only like rulings they agree with.

[gulfcoast6]

No, not chicken but played what is right. He wins.

[m1-lightning]

Hey, the law's the law. Nobody's above the law.

I'm curious, what specific law is this breaking?

[jethropalerobber]

My first thought was "in chains!" Followed by incarcerated!!

thank you for nicely underscoring the threat that theocrats pose to a freedom loving nation.

[inquest]

One question -- if this statue is required in order for Judge Moore to fulfill his constitutional duties to the State of Alabama, why was it purchased with private donations? Why not use taxpayer money?

I have no idea, and it's no concern of mine. If he saved the taxpayers some money, I don't see how that's any big crime.

[sinkspur]

Then Sinkspur, BamaG and Luiz Gonzalez say they should be shot.

Calm down. You look ridiculous.

[Lancey Howard]

He's a liberal troll. I wouldn't engage him.

[m1-lightning]

A lot of hostility towards the ACLU on FR stems from ignorance.

No, a lot of hostility toward the ACLU on FR stems from consistent BS hypocricy from the ACLU. They don't care about civil liberties of ALL Americans, just some of them.