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New Dinosaur Species Found in India
AP ^ | August 13, 2003 | RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM

Posted on 08/13/2003 9:02:05 PM PDT by nwrep

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By RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM, Associated Press Writer

BOMBAY, India - U.S. and Indian scientists said Wednesday they have discovered a new carnivorous dinosaur species in India after finding bones in the western part of the country.

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The new dinosaur species was named Rajasaurus narmadensis, or "Regal reptile from the Narmada," after the Narmada River region where the bones were found.

The dinosaurs were between 25-30 feet long, had a horn above their skulls, were relatively heavy and walked on two legs, scientists said. They preyed on long-necked herbivorous dinosaurs on the Indian subcontinent during the Cretaceous Period at the end of the dinosaur age, 65 million years ago.

"It's fabulous to be able to see this dinosaur which lived as the age of dinosaurs came to a close," said Paul Sereno, a paleontologist at the University of Chicago. "It was a significant predator that was related to species on continental Africa, Madagascar and South America."

Working with Indian scientists, Sereno and paleontologist Jeff Wilson of the University of Michigan reconstructed the dinosaur skull in a project funded partly by the National Geographic (news - web sites) Society.

A model of the assembled skull was presented Wednesday by the American scientists to their counterparts from Punjab University in northern India and the Geological Survey of India during a Bombay news conference.

Scientists said they hope the discovery will help explain the extinction of the dinosaurs and the shifting of the continents — how India separated from Africa, Madagascar, Australia and Antarctica and collided with Asia.

The dinosaur bones were discovered during the past 18 years by Indian scientists Suresh Srivastava of the Geological Survey of India and Ashok Sahni, a paleontologist at Punjab University.

When the bones were examined, "we realized we had a partial skeleton of an undiscovered species," Sereno said.

The scientists said they believe the Rajasaurus roamed the Southern Hemisphere land masses of present-day Madagascar, Africa and South America.

"People don't realize dinosaurs are the only large-bodied animal that lived, evolved and died at a time when all continents were united," Sereno said.

The cause of the dinosaurs' extinction is still debated by scientists. The Rajasaurus discovery may provide crucial clues, Sereno said.

India has seen quite a few paleontological discoveries recently.

In 1997, villagers discovered about 300 fossilized dinosaur eggs in Pisdura, 440 miles northeast of Bombay, that Indian scientists said were laid by four-legged, long-necked vegetarian creatures.

Indian scientists said the dinosaur embryos in the eggs may have suffocated during volcanic eruptions.


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KEYWORDS: acanthostega; antarctica; australia; catastrophism; crevolist; dino; dinosaurs; godsgravesglyphs; ichthyostega; india; madagascar; narmadabasin; narmadensis; paleontology; rajasaurus; rino
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To: AndrewC
You accused me of not complying with the agreement and had no justification as required in the agreement.

I am working under the premise you did not sign the agreement. If you did, I withdraw the accusation of non-compliance.

381 posted on 08/16/2003 1:05:39 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: VadeRetro
We're not getting a whole lot from this exercise in self-restraint.

That's because some of us forget to flip the switch on the Virtual Ignore control panel.

382 posted on 08/16/2003 1:07:02 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
I am working under the premise you did not sign the agreement.

Signing the agreement has nothing to do with complying with the agreement.

A "complying poster" is one who is compliance with this agreement.

I accept your apology.

383 posted on 08/16/2003 1:08:13 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: PatrickHenry
I don't have NakatuX or AndrewC on VI.
384 posted on 08/16/2003 1:10:13 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: PatrickHenry; Right Wing Professor
There is no hint of blasphemy in claiming that the "designer" in ID theory isn't doing quality work.

Good point! Man, it sure isn't clear what those aliens thought they were doing!

385 posted on 08/16/2003 1:13:47 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: AndrewC
I accept your apology.

I haven't tendered one, not could my previous post be construed to say I did. This is playground stuff. If you have anything further of substance to post, I will reply to it. Otherwise, nyanyanya all you want.

386 posted on 08/16/2003 1:13:52 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: AndrewC; StolarStorm
But while tyranny itself is nothing new, ... the tyranny of the scientific expert (( new thread )) is the most crushing tyranny of all. That tyranny is being exercised most effectively in the field of education. A monopolistic system of education controlled by the State is far more efficient in crushing our liberty than the cruder weapons of fire and sword. Against this monopoly of education by the State the Christian school brings a salutary protest; it contends for the right of parents to bring up their children in accordance with the dictates of their conscience and not in the manner prescribed by the State. 4America's Most Important Battleground: Christian vs. Secular Education

Socialized education is at emnity (( war )) with freedom and private education ...

independence of anything --- thinking is forbidden --- BLOCKED by infantile crippled minds --- radiation by lies - evolution !

Watch how these control freaks show up on these threads ... mind benders --- social engineers --- overlords on a troll stalk - kill !

You would think the management would notice !

387 posted on 08/16/2003 1:19:41 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: StolarStorm
Tail bones eh? Are you suggesting that they are vestigal? It would be interesting to go have ours surgically removed and see what happens. LOLOL
388 posted on 08/16/2003 1:36:58 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (returned)
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To: PatrickHenry
isolated Thunderstorms placemarker
389 posted on 08/16/2003 1:40:17 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: DittoJed2
If you have ever seen flooding, it can do a lot of damage rather rapidly.

Not through solid rock, it can't. Are you saying that the rocks in the Grand Canyon were still soft when the 'dam' broke and carved through them?

390 posted on 08/16/2003 1:40:55 PM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: DittoJed2
There are upright petrified trees all over the world that cut straight through the sacred geological column.

Not really. There are examples from the Carboniferous of trees penetrating several mud layers when the depositional environment consisted of migrating river meanders and muddy banks, which means that tree trunks could be innunated several times while still upright.

391 posted on 08/16/2003 1:43:22 PM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: Aric2000
Well, if that is true then why is organic evolution always attempting to give their "scientific" take on origins? Many who subscribe to evolution very often scoff at the idea that God created everything. They much prefer the idea that the whole universe and beyond came from matter too small to detect without a microscope. Time is also very essential to evolution. Thus explaining why each year they are adding more and more billions of years to the "beginning". Some people might argue that evolution means this or that, but the big picture is very easy to see. I suggest to you that adaptation is not the big picture in the evolution hypothesis. There perhaps, is a far more dare I say sinister plan. Please do not bite my head off for my opinion, this is a very important topic to many as I have seen here. I suspect a very important topic for various reasons I might add.
392 posted on 08/16/2003 1:48:31 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (returned)
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To: gore3000
The statement of a fish turning into a dog, tells me that you have no idea what you are critiquing.

Wow! A discussion I started shows up on another thread... I feel famous!

393 posted on 08/16/2003 1:58:48 PM PDT by Galatians513
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To: Da_Shrimp
Are you saying there are none in the Grand Canyon? Just curious.
Regards.
394 posted on 08/16/2003 2:03:34 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (returned)
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To: concisetraveler
Are you saying there are none in the Grand Canyon? Just curious.

Not at all: there may well be, since the Grand Canyon sequence includes the Carboniferous, too.

395 posted on 08/16/2003 2:11:23 PM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: concisetraveler
Well, if that is true then why is organic evolution always attempting to give their "scientific" take on origins?

You mean, why would most scientists look to a scientific explanation for such origins?

Many who subscribe to evolution very often scoff at the idea that God created everything.

I would dispute the "many". And could it be because some people scoff at the idea that God created anything?

396 posted on 08/16/2003 2:11:38 PM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance is no excuse.)
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To: AndrewC
Signing the agreement has nothing to do with complying with the agreement.

A "complying poster" is one who is compliance with this agreement.

Yes, it most certainly does have something to do with signing the agreement. First line of the agreement:

Effective August 9, 2003, we, the undersigned, freely and in good faith agree that henceforth we shall treat others on these threads as we wish to be treated ourselves.
To be in compliance with the agreement one must have, among other things, "freely and in good faith agreed that..."

Not only did you not so agree, you explicitly rejected such agreement. You are not a "complying poster".

I accept your apology.

No apology was offered, nor required.

397 posted on 08/16/2003 2:12:36 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Nakatu X; AndrewC; Aric2000
Thank y'all so much for the heads up on this discussion! Thank you for your wisdom and insight, Nakatu X! Thank you, Aric2000, for apologizing to those of us who are hurt by jokes about our Creator.

AndrewC, I realize you are probably frustrated at being reminded so often that you are an "outsider" to the agreement. I regret any ill will you may have suffered or experienced.

One of the essential things that we built into the agreement was a provision that each side would exercise good faith to "police" their own. The provision should help avoid having one side pointing fingers at the other to comply, thereby justifying a counter response of the same type, i.e. a flame war of compliance.

I strongly suspect the tension here is caused by that kind of 'us' v 'them' atmosphere. Hopefully, everyone will now accept that this issue has been satisfied as far as it can be under the circumstances and put it behind us.

398 posted on 08/16/2003 2:49:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ichneumon
To be in compliance with the agreement one must have, among other things, "freely and in good faith agreed that..."

True. But there are several regulars in our threads who haven't bothered themselves with the agreement at all, who were absent from the drafting thread, who avoided all the quibbles and petty disputes, but who nevertheless conduct themselves as if they were complying posters. That is, their posts are always respectful, never provocative, never spamming, never involved in nit-picking irrelevant trivia, etc. We might consider them "virtuous non-signers."

399 posted on 08/16/2003 2:54:59 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Post 399 is for you too.
400 posted on 08/16/2003 2:56:14 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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