New Dinosaur Species Found in India

AP ^ | August 13, 2003 | RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM

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New Dinosaur Species Found in India

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By RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM, Associated Press Writer

BOMBAY, India - U.S. and Indian scientists said Wednesday they have discovered a new carnivorous dinosaur species in India after finding bones in the western part of the country.

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The new dinosaur species was named Rajasaurus narmadensis, or "Regal reptile from the Narmada," after the Narmada River region where the bones were found.

The dinosaurs were between 25-30 feet long, had a horn above their skulls, were relatively heavy and walked on two legs, scientists said. They preyed on long-necked herbivorous dinosaurs on the Indian subcontinent during the Cretaceous Period at the end of the dinosaur age, 65 million years ago.

"It's fabulous to be able to see this dinosaur which lived as the age of dinosaurs came to a close," said Paul Sereno, a paleontologist at the University of Chicago. "It was a significant predator that was related to species on continental Africa, Madagascar and South America."

Working with Indian scientists, Sereno and paleontologist Jeff Wilson of the University of Michigan reconstructed the dinosaur skull in a project funded partly by the National Geographic (news - web sites) Society.

A model of the assembled skull was presented Wednesday by the American scientists to their counterparts from Punjab University in northern India and the Geological Survey of India during a Bombay news conference.

Scientists said they hope the discovery will help explain the extinction of the dinosaurs and the shifting of the continents — how India separated from Africa, Madagascar, Australia and Antarctica and collided with Asia.

The dinosaur bones were discovered during the past 18 years by Indian scientists Suresh Srivastava of the Geological Survey of India and Ashok Sahni, a paleontologist at Punjab University.

When the bones were examined, "we realized we had a partial skeleton of an undiscovered species," Sereno said.

The scientists said they believe the Rajasaurus roamed the Southern Hemisphere land masses of present-day Madagascar, Africa and South America.

"People don't realize dinosaurs are the only large-bodied animal that lived, evolved and died at a time when all continents were united," Sereno said.

The cause of the dinosaurs' extinction is still debated by scientists. The Rajasaurus discovery may provide crucial clues, Sereno said.

India has seen quite a few paleontological discoveries recently.

In 1997, villagers discovered about 300 fossilized dinosaur eggs in Pisdura, 440 miles northeast of Bombay, that Indian scientists said were laid by four-legged, long-necked vegetarian creatures.

Indian scientists said the dinosaur embryos in the eggs may have suffocated during volcanic eruptions.

[PatrickHenry]

You sayin' hillbillies love their daddies?

Truly, I'm surrounded by barbarians.

[js1138]

Hi. What happened with the telescope?

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

A very good one. :)

[Alamo-Girl]

I am very glad you are here and welcome your posts! I'm very pleased that we share the same interests.

[Shryke]

This is a flawed argument. It is the same as the Catholic who invents hundreds of doctrines about Mary and says that just because the Bible doesn't say them doesn't mean that they aren't true. When the bible puts the rest of the universe at the feet of the earth regarding creation, that is all it needs to say. One must reject the whole 6 day creation and substitute some theistic evolution theory to allow any possiblity of importance to the rest of the universe.

The argument I presented is not flawed. If you want to compare it to someone claiming large amounts of doctrines concerning Mary can be true because the bible does not refute it, so be it. Let's discuss that. Why would that person not be correct in their beliefs?

You also stated I am probably not comfortable with a 6-day creation theory. This is incorrect - God could create anything at any time. How the Earth was created could well be one of many things, including Big-Bang type development, all of which, IMO, do not refute Genesis. I happen to believe that the first four days of Genesis could have spanned a long, long time (no sun, moon, no standard days - I am sure you have heard this argument before).

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

telescope?

[Da_Shrimp]

I agree. I always welcome your posts! :-)

Thanks!

[js1138]

Microscope. Sorry.

[Aracelis]

But as Spock said, "...for nowhere else am I more sorely needed..."

[Right Wing Professor]

Yet, in America, our stable representative democracy becomes more and more unstable only as the religiosity of a nation founded upon Judeo Christian values grows dimmer and dimmer.

Our stable representative democracy fought a vicious civil war back when we were more than 90% Christian. It fought off several minor rebellions between 1789 and 1861. The most outwardly Christian region of the country dienfranchised almost all its black citizens from about 1880 through the mid 1960's. In brief, there is no objective evidence that American representative democracy has been stabilized by religion.

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

I got a nice one thank you for asking.

[Junior]

I got y'all beat. I've read 120 percent of the Protestant Bible. 'Course, my Bible has the Apocrypha in it ...

[Aric2000]

Barbarians and don't forget heathens!!

See what kind of friends you have? ;)

[Da_Shrimp]

I am very glad you are here and welcome your posts! I'm very pleased that we share the same interests.

Thanks Alamo-Girl... which reminds me, did you manage to find the stuff about the Kabbalah? Don't worry if you can't this ain't no hassle!

[Alamo-Girl]

Welcome back! DittoJed2 has been pretty much carrying the YEC argument these last few days. I'm sure your help will be much appreciated.

[DittoJed2]

There is no such thing as "Darwinian philosophy." The closest you might come would be laissez faire capitalism. The Nazi philosophy was based on Theosophy and its corrupted teachings that God created a perfect race (the Aryans) and all other races are corrupted, or fallen, versions of the Aryans.

Hitler was an evolutionist, who believed that Jews were almost completely ape and that blacks were predominantly ape.

Simply because your pastor said Naziism was based on Darwinism does not make it so. And, your contention of being a historian means you hold yourself to a higher level of standards than that of the average historically-illiterate bohunk that occasionally pops up on these threads. We've been down this road dozens of times. You won't find many quotes wherein Hitler claims to be fulfilling Darwin's work, but we can post several wherein he claims to be doing God's work.
In my undergraduate studies, where I was also a history major (double major), the History of Nazi Germany was one of my better subjects. My final grade in that class (at a large secular university) was 106. Please do not accuse me of historically illiterate bohunk or accuse my pastor as having taught me a single thing about Nazism. My pastor and I haven't even discussed Hitler to my recollection and never even had what I would consider a conversation of Evolution. As a matter of fact, he's never preached on the subject. My knowledge comes from historical study and your presumptions are the epitomy of the kind of elitism that pervades your group.

You opened up this can of worms. The discussion was going nicely up to this point. It can continue along that path, but the choice is up to you.
Because I don't play by your rules and try to draw out philosophical implications of your belief system, I have opened up a can of worms. Well, fine, can of worms or no can, my comments on Darwinism will stand for what they are. I have posted quotes from Darwin and co. to back them up, yet the see no evil, hear no evil crowd still accuses me of trolling. Whatever guys. Whatever.

[Bluntpoint]

My thought removed by moderator before I could post it.

[biblewonk]

The argument I presented is not flawed. If you want to compare it to someone claiming large amounts of doctrines concerning Mary can be true because the bible does not refute it, so be it. Let's discuss that. Why would that person not be correct in their beliefs?

The basis for that belief is tradition and a self defined value to the words of a self defined position known as a pope. The bible says enough about it's own value and the value of being born again and being taught by God that one can disgard something as man made as the RC church and it's beliefs. Your statement "Why would that person not be correct" may be applied to any belief though so I'm not sure if you are defending RC beliefs in particular or any individual beliefs in general. I've certainly spent 1000's of posts on the topic of RC Marianism with RC's and I realize that we are not going to solve or even add anything to that debate.

You also stated I am probably not comfortable with a 6-day creation theory. This is incorrect - God could create anything at any time. How the Earth was created could well be one of many things, including Big-Bang type development, all of which, IMO, do not refute Genesis. I happen to believe that the first four days of Genesis could have spanned a long, long time (no sun, moon, no standard days - I am sure you have heard this argument before).

Saddly.

[PatrickHenry]

In keeping with my mission to enlighten the lurkers, my latest tagline: Hic amor, haec patria est is from Virgil's Aneid. When AEneas fled the fall of Troy and came to Latium (Italy), where he became the legendary founder of the Etruscans, from whom the noble Romans claimed descent, he declared of his adopted homeland (says Virgil): "This is my love, this is my country."

[Aric2000]

2700?